Chat Control is an EU law proposal set to be approved tomorrow, which will enforce surveillance software on our computers and phones

@pdockal You made an assumption that surveillance will only target adults who communicate with children online, which you then used to try to deflect sole responsibility on to parents. I disagree, as there are many other ways to cause harm to vulnerable groups. The internet is a public forum that has become increasingly hostile and toxic. The essential message is that if you wouldn't do it in real life, don't do it online either.

Thank you for your customary courtesy 🙄

@SunshineGirl

Spying on me to make you think your safe is wrong and against my constitutional rights to privacy and freedom
Doesn't matter what you're issue is
Doesn't matter how you spin it

My kids, my nieces & nephews etc are monitored with respect to their internet use
They were given the tools & taught properly & yes something can still go wrong but I'm confident they will be safe and again is the parents responsibility to educate and teach and protect their children

YOUR NOT YOUR CHILDREN'S FRIEND

you want to give up your freedoms and TRUST the government to protect you ... go right ahead ... I'll protect myself without the intrusion from the government & YOU &am willing to endure the consequences of MY actions

@Bellatrix2024 so you don't like the god as described in the bible. We have that in common in then. But if you're not interested in pleasing him, why does it matter if he's real or not?

@NerdyPotato Why are you bringing that up here? This is about EU legislation, not the existence or non-existence of the God of the Bible.

@Bellatrix2024 oh sorry, I got our two threads confused. Yeah, that law should just be dropped altogether.

@IHateViolence Yeah, mmm-hmm.

@IHateViolence I think that is what I struggle to understand. The internet is the most public forum imaginable. People can hide behind the anonymity of a screen, but at the end of the day it is the medium I am least likely disclose condidential data on. I am not sure how people came to identify communicating on it as a benchmark of liberty and privacy.

@SunshineGirl I think it's because we all like to think our little group of friends on the internet is private. That's because we're used to having groups of IRL friends, and nobody knowing what we're talking about. But we need to wake up to this fact.

@Bellatrix2024 If someone in SW decides to send me an unsolicited photo of their genitals (as happens from time to time) and I decide to teach that person a lesson and warn others about their anti-social behaviour by re-posting the offensive message, then under the EU General Data Protection Act (GDPR) I am more likely to fall foul of the law than the aforesaid pervert/sex pest. Does that sound just? Does it sound like the mark of a tyrannical governmenr? Consider just occasionally that this legislation may have a useful social purpose and popular support.

@SunshineGirl So this aspect of it,

"Chat Control is an imminent EU proposal that mandates devices (Android, iPhone, Windows, etc.) and applications to use AI to read everything we write and monitor images/videos we send, reporting to the government"

doesn't bother you at all? How can something like this not be abused? Why should I, as someone who doesn't even have children, have to submit to the gross indignity of being spied upon for this stated reason (i.e. "protecting the children")? Why doesn't someone over there come up with an effective method for preventing children from being exposed to predators? Why don't PARENTS do their damn job and actually PARENT their children? Why can't they say "No" when the child asks for a new phone or computer?
If someone were to send me an offensive photo, I'd simply let them know that what they'd done was wrong and then block them. I'd never speak to that person again if it really was that bad. In reposting the message or image in order to "teach that person a lesson", you're actually helping to disseminate the original offensive message, and that's why you'd get into trouble for it.
I don't want the government, or anyone else really, to "protect me". I can look after myself, I don't need that, I don't want a nanny, and I certainly do NOT want to have my personal space and privacy invaded by a bunch of well-meaning do-gooders who just can't seem to mind their own damned business.