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Uncomplicating The "Complicated" Palestine/Israel Conflict - SOME MORE NEWS

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HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
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HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
Don't listen to Deflection Boy. He's a liar, accuses people of things for which he has no evidence and repeats talking points given to him.

He has not had an original thought in his entire life.

He thinks he's clever in his attempts to move the narrative but he's as transparent as a pane of glass.

Read this quickly, because this coward will delete this comment.
@HoraceGreenley [quote] Honey bring your boyfriend in here [/quote]

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HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
sascha · F
Unfortunately, themanhimself87 decided to block me.

However, I am still responding:

In 2006, an overwhelming number of Palestinians voted for Hamas. They were psychopaths then, and are psychopaths now. The PA doesn't want to associate with them, as they know they are psychopaths. If Gaza cannot or does not want to rid itself of Hamas, what should we do? I would rebel, or leave, if I lived there.

How can we get Hamas out?

All of these psychopaths were what you assume to be Palestinian victims at one point. How do we prevent them from becoming sadistic murderers? It took more than one person to murder 1,400 people in Israel.

Despite the obvious psychopathy from Hamas, it is Israel's duty to protect its people. I am saddened that they failed in this task, almost two weeks ago. If you protect your civilians and allow your civilians to protect themselves, it should not come to retaliation. People in the communities, with their hopes and their dreams around Aliyah, were left helpless and vulnerable. This sickens me. People in their homes, with their children, being attacked by pure evil...this is personal. I hate it.

Every one of us can view the state of Israel how we like, but the victims in the communities were not more powerful than Hamas. On the morning of October 7th, 2023, Hamas overwhelmed and destroyed these souls.

I thought people went to Israel to live, not die. Are those babies worth it? They are not.
basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
@sascha wellllll, maybe instead of indiscriminate bombing with white phosphorus and ethnically cleansing half of Gaza, actually put boots on the ground?

The Israeli army is well funded and well trained, if they went in, they could kill the Hamas leadership without killing civilians.
sascha · F
@basilfawlty89 Hamas is also well funded and well-trained.

Entering Gaza is necessary if Israel is going to attempt to dismantle Hamas. Killing Hamas leadership is extremely difficult, though.

Their most senior leader lives in Qatar, and the rest of them live in underground tunnels. Those responsible for planning the savage attacks on Israel have been living underground for a very long time, otherwise Israel would have assassinated them already.

Numerous relatives of Hamas leaders have been killed in the airstrikes.

It's probable that many of the hostages have been taken underground.

There are around 30,000 Hamas combatants living in Gaza, and they would also need to be targeted.
basilfawlty89 · 31-35, M
@sascha better than indiscriminate bombing. Also, after the Israeli hostage crisis, Golda Meir allowed for the Mossad to assassinate those responsible.

Israel has Western backing, and the West are still the dominant economic force.

If Armenians following the Armenian Genocide could assassinate the perpetrators of the Genocide without any funding except by Armenians themselves, I see no reason why Israel can't.
SW-User
You're not supposed to talk about this. Just claim 40 Israeli babies were beheaded without a shred of evidence and get on the genocide train.
sascha · F
@SW-User [quote]Are you going to talk about the Jewish babies who had their homes stormed into by psychopaths worse than the Nazis, and who were set on fire, beheaded, or shot in the face?[/quote]

Well?
sascha · F
@SW-User Did you know that a terrorist organization are in control of Gaza?

What do you think countries do when they are attacked?

Fool.
SW-User
@sascha Of course, so we bomb civilians because Hamas, you fucking dunce. What do you think people do when they fight off an occupation that's been oppressing and killing them for decades? I'm waiting for the part where you block me and if you don't I will block you. Feel free to have your final say before you block as is typical around here.
0:00-0:15 is that your reaction if I gave you a newspaper? 🤭
@BritishFailedAesthetic I mean, now that we have vlogs, I see no other use for newspapers. Even sudoku, you can play online now.
@BohemianBoo Yeah, haven't got a paper in forever, nor does anyone I know.
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
Deflection Boy is a
Just want to note that this video is two years old, it was not made after Hamas started brutally killing lots of civilians very recently

That being said, it is tiresome to hear pro-Israel types get offended when you suggest that, in part, Israel might have brought this on itself ... you know, "victim-blaming" always bad, all Israel critics are antisemites, blah blah blah

At the same time, even if Israel had never been created, Muslims and Arabs have been doing this sort of thing forever and likely would keep doing so even if Israel were completely dissolved)
@BlueGreenGrey Hamas only exists because of Israel, which this video went to detail on.

Arabs and Jews actually lived pretty peacefully in Palestine before the Zionists got there.
tenente · 100+, M
can anyone tell me, why would anyone want to live is this territory? it's not economic b/c natural resources are worse than scarce. there's no oil or diamonds or trees or etc.. it's a desert... it's not strategic by any means, tucked into the east end of the Mediterranean makes it a fly over country. so, other than religion, is there any good reason to stay there? i just don't understand the trade off of innocent lives. what am i missing?
@HoraceGreenley Yeah, I watch old SNL skits. His George Bush was really good.
HoraceGreenley · 56-60, M
@BohemianBoo
Will Ferrell? Not Dana Carvey/
tenente · 100+, M
@HoraceGreenley @BohemianBoo needs more cowbell 🐄
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