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UK IS A JOKE

because of us. Brexit was a joke. U know there positives and negatives to both sides. we left eu. ye in 4 years whatever its bad idea. you know what we a are giving up? no trolls pls
Picklebobble · 56-60, M
Wow!
Don't think I've ever seen such a blatant case of holding an opinion with no fact behind it !!
It makes no odds to the UK whether we are in or out of the E:U. !
In it's simplest terms, let me try and explain why!
Germany NEEDS the E:U.
France NEEDS the E:U.
Italy NEEDS the E:U
The reason is they are the countries that produce the largest number of industrial goods !
I.e. Cars, trucks, busses, steel, coal, gas, cookers/washing machines/refrigerators etc!
They NEED the E:U because it guarantees them favourable exports to other E:U countries!
Britain. And many other E:U nations doesn't make ANY of those items!!!!!!
Why?
Because way back in the 80's when Britain actually OWNED it's own gas, electricity, steel, car manufacturing, shipbuilding, white goods plants etc.
The government of the day sought outside investment to effectively buy these things at rock bottom prices, so as to free the government from the responsibility of owning them.
In short. The UK government sold them ALL OFF to other countries in order to do away with the responsibility of having to run them!
Now. Some will at this point, say it was because the trade unions of the time blocked every attempt to modernise and become more competitive with other nations doing the same thing!
Which is partially true!
But it was also because there were other nations producing the same stuff only cheaper! Paying lower salaries! Modernising production.
Henry Ford may have invented the Assembly line. But Japan updated it with robots that put cars together!
Instead of people!!!!
Suddenly you could buy Datsun cars at HALF THE PRICE of a home built Triumph or Escort!!!!!!
Thus Britain fell behind in the Industrial Age!!!
One by one ALL car plants closed!
One by one ALL coal pits closed!
One by one ALL shipyards closed!
Now. The Thatcher government would no doubt tell you it's because we were too slow to adapt! Our workers were too militant (strikes were commonplace while all this privatisation was going on!)
Joke being, that we then had Nissan, VW, DAF etc. Build plants HERE at favourable cost. Whilst hiring 1/5 of the original workforce! At HALF what they were earning before!!!
After the death of British industry. Which, incidentally killed hundreds of communities up and down the country! We all started working for foreign companies!
Cadbury
Jaguar/Landrover
Asda
Tesco
HSBC
Ford
Toyota
And endless banks and investment co.'s!
So because we have little to sell. Our place in the E:U is an irrelevance!
The E:U can make ALL the rules it likes
And the ONLY influence we had was because we were the 5th largest contributor to it's budget!!!
Hope that helps you understand it a bit better!
Carver · 31-35, F
The media is lying to you, constantly going on about how Brexit is negatively impacting the UK without ever once talking about how the UK will indisputably benefit from leaving the EU. Yes, there are some negatives that have came from Brexit but the pros outweigh the cons on this one. Not that the media will ever admit it though. They'll do everything they can to make Brexit look bad. Every bad thing that happens in Europe will be blamed on Brexit now, some have already blamed the recent Nice terrorist attack in France on Brexit! Quit allowing wool to be pulled over your eyes.
Nyloncapes · 61-69, M
No more rules from nobody's in the EU deport criminals make our own laws and cut immigration
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Picklebobble · 56-60, M
dunpender:
The rebate was given as we weren't receiving the same financial help as France, Germany, Italy etc with regard to supporting their own industries.
Make no mistake, this is why Merkel and Hollande want the E:U to continue!
Because EVERYBODY IN IT contributes to supporting Germany and France's industrial complex.
Picklebobble · 56-60, M
Oh right!
Now I understand the hostility!!
Well. I agree !
If Scotland were an independent state I'd heartily endorse the idea of applying for E:U membership!
It would make perfect sense!!
Grants and funding for all sorts of projects in Scotland would boost the economy, encourage growth and give Scotland a secure footing for the future!
That said. If you want somebody to be pissed at, it should probably be those in your home nation that voted against independence.
Personally I'm all for it !!
Scotland, Wales and Ireland were all independent sovereign nations before us English wreaked havoc!!
And there's no reason why you shouldn't be again!
But you'll have to convince your countrymen to follow!!
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MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M
I don't understand what you want to achieve with this post...
Nyloncapes · 61-69, M
Yes they will all move up to Scotland and descend on you instead of UK and then you will have parents can not get children into school of there choice and long waiting lists for houses
Gumba1000 · M
Dunpender I don't see how you need immigrants. You have high unemployment just like my area of England. Hire Scottish folk and accept that good and services will cost you more.
Gumba1000 · M
Dunpender I feel you are selling yourself short as well as us as a whole. Scotland does not need the EU any more than Englsnd does. The UK does not need Europe. They want to buy off us, we want to buy off them. Trade agreements will be made. Do you know which industries produce the most income for Scotland? Those goods will be bought by the world regardless of the price.

The reason Scotland would be better off in the UK; the oil will not last forever.

Come on man, throw me a haggis, I like them. I will thtow you a scone.
Nyloncapes · 61-69, M
Leaving EU best thing for UK look what we are getting just to start with free trade with the world
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Nyloncapes · 61-69, M
Why do you need them in scotland
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Nyloncapes · 61-69, M
Just hope Scotland leave and then they will see what they let there selfs in for and don't come begging with the bowl for money and help when you get indepence and stand on your own 2 feet all the money we will save by not giving it to scotland
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Gumba1000 · M
I haven't a clue what your post is meant to say but I think leaving the EU was right.

I also think Scotland would have voted the same as England had it had the same level of immigration as England.

I would love Scotland to remain UK. But they can go if they want.
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Nyloncapes · 61-69, M
EU scared now as uk left and other countries thinkng the same now they don't want to be dragged down with EU now EU are loosing it and Merkel knows it
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Nyloncapes · 61-69, M
China Japan america Australia India Canada bigger markets to trade with and Germany will still trade with us sell to many of there cars
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Gumba1000 · M
We don't need immigrants Dunpender. We need to employ British people and accept that things will cost more money.
Nyloncapes · 61-69, M
All these experts told us years ago if UK did not join euro it would be a disaster glad we didn't listen to them then
Nyloncapes · 61-69, M
Yesd but takes so long to deport them under EU laws and human rights get a British bill of human rights hen put them on plane the next day
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Picklebobble · 56-60, M
dunpender:
Now you're bored ??
What country are you in and why would whatever the Brits do affect you?
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Nyloncapes · 61-69, M
You won't say that when they come in there hundreds of thousands and drive wages down up there
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Nyloncapes · 61-69, M
I'm English and yes special France are a joke we see how speviasl they were in world war 2
Nyloncapes · 61-69, M
Brussels put sturgeon in her place same as Theresa may will
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Picklebobble · 56-60, M
dunpender.
"Wouldn't pay it's proper dues" ?
Explain please!
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Nyloncapes · 61-69, M
How will you survive with out funding from uk
Nyloncapes · 61-69, M
Nicola sturgeon will welcome them
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MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M
Brittland has always managed better than most countries, I don't think they have anything to worry about lol...
Nyloncapes · 61-69, M
Dunpender you have gone quiet
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