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Why are there millions of poor people in America?

When you begin to ask that question, you are raising a question about the economic system, about a broader distribution of wealth. When you being to ask that question, you begin to question the capitalistic economy.

We’ve got to begin to ask questions about our whole society.

One day we must come to see the edifice which produces beggars needs restructuring.
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Carazaa · F
Social research about values around the world have discovered differences in American values. As far as I understand the research it seems most countries have concern and empathy about other people in other classes, lower classes, etc, except Americans for some reason. In the research I read Americans are very concerned about their own economy and are less concerned about other people.

I have actually heard many people say, I don't really want to spend money on taxes, or homeless, or the poor. You don't hear that kind of response in most other countries. In most countries parents read fairy tales to promote empathy and teach children values of caring, manners, and sharing. It appears that some Americans teach their children values that other countries don't share. to compete, win, defend yourself, get ahead, etc.

Love has to be taught. Read the little Match girl. It is often read in Scandinavia to teach children about empathy.

Here is a summary of that story.

[b]It is a beautiful story about a little girl who has an abusive father who in the cold of winter has to go out in the snow and sell matches for the family. But it is so cold that the little girl is freezing to death and lights one match after another to feel some warmth. She lights the last match, and she starts to hallucinate, and she sees a Christmas ham and food and closes her eyes and pretends she is inside at a Christmas party. She lights another match, and then another to keep the happy feeling.
But sadly, on Christmas day when the children are out playing with their toys and people are taking a walk they see a dead little girl in the snow, with shoes with holes in them. She passed away lighting all the matches.
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FreddieUK · 70-79, M
There are countries where the rich/poor divide is far less marked. They are rich countries, too. They often have good natural resources, but they also have a humanitarian view of other people.

I see the usual tropes: 'poor people are responsible for being poor', 'they're all drug addicts', 'I worked hard, I deserve it'.

No-one chooses to be poor. If your parents were poor, you had an abusive childhood, you come from a group who has traditionally been discriminated against or couldn't afford to get out of a ghetto, then you have massive disadvantages without outside help such as a scholarship, a benefactor or...wait for it...a few pennies from a billionaire in taxes.

I have no problem with people telling me that their view is that poor people deserve it and they can get out of it if they choose: I think they are wrong, but that's what they think. But if any of them even suggest that this is a moral, or worse, Christian attitude I will have a major and robust debate with them.
The folks in a position to change things are not asking these questions.
And ironically, some of those affected also aren’t asking because they don’t get that they are.
PalteseMalconFunch · 36-40, T
@bijouxbroussard This is a paraphrasing of MLK. He asked these questions 60 years ago.

And the same people on this thread that are attacking these words will quote him when it’s convenient to them. Same with politicians quoting him. It’s disgusting.
@PalteseMalconFunch Indeed they will (do).
There are many means to get an education, including in the trades, to prepare yourself for more gainful employment. Those of us who took advantage of those opportunities live a better life as a result.

Why should we accept "redistribution" of our earnings to help the people who chose to sit on their ass on a couch in their grandma's basement playing video games ??
@JPWhoo That is part of the challenge though .. fast food jobs are not skilled positions and we have too many in our society only qualified for that kind of work. Are fast food only workers in other countries sustaining their lives without public assistance? I doubt that. If you have evidence otherwise please share.
@BrandNewMan I get that it would be an entirely different approach for Americans, but some countries provide an education for their citizens targeting work in specific industries, schooling that doesn’t engulf them in debt.

Those countries are basically investing in them, with two results: their people have the foundation for earning a livable wage that no one can take away.

And the country has less need to import skilled workers from outside their shores.
@bijouxbroussard I would far rather see that kind of education/skills training programs here than what our higher education system has become.
zonavar68 · 56-60, M
Trump and musk intend to destroy the us middle class creating a very large poor lower class. That's how Trump intends to get manufacturing etc back by forcing labour costs to the bottom of the barrel.
PalteseMalconFunch · 36-40, T
@Reason10 You’re more than welcome to keep yelling on all my posts

But my New Year’s resolution was to stop playing chess with pigeons
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zonavar68 · 56-60, M
Trump is attempting to force the US labour market to mirror China where there is a narrow ruling class and everyone else is lower class, with nothing in the middle. He is trying to forces wages to the bottom so the US can 'compete' with China as tariff's are going to artificially raise prices of imported goods and services and that is a very short-term 'bump'
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PalteseMalconFunch · 36-40, T
@jshm2 They call it the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it.
markinkansas · 61-69, M
[media=https://youtu.be/79KDKWEOJ1s]he says it better than i do
markinkansas · 61-69, M
@Patriot96 that is the problem with maga .. when ya dont have a good argument ya degrade or get mad.. get my point . little man or woman .. just what does the c mean cross dresser ?
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markinkansas · 61-69, M
@Patriot96 sorry i am a republican. and again what does that c mean?
edited sanders is a independent by the way
We create poverty, then punish people for it.
PalteseMalconFunch · 36-40, T
@MarbleMarvel “When I ask why they are poor, they call me a communist”
Reason10 · 70-79, M
@MarbleMarvel DemoNazi governments create poverty. The Great Society DESTROYED the black family unit, and today 75 percent of all black children are born into single family households.

DemoNazi governments RAISE TAXES ON THE MIDDLE CLASS. (the poor do not pay taxes.)

In the end, poverty in America is a CHOICE.

Poor people drop out of high school, quit their jobs, have children out of wedlock. You can't blame a government OR THE TAXPAYER for those CHOICES.
oldguy73 · 70-79, M
you can't have rich people unless you have poor people, same both ways
PalteseMalconFunch · 36-40, T
@oldguy73 Very true. Someone has to be exploited.
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The same people in gov't pounding their fists about "distribution of wealth" are some of the biggest thieves.

Wonder where all that money went?
@JPWhoo I'm sure your brain is in there somewhere 🙄

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Simple. Healthcare.
Because falsified misinformation in controlled media says so? That would be the cause of everything negative
@bijouxbroussard my conscience is clear, that having a good day is offensive to anyone is quite telling, not hiding that to appease anyone, that is the result of much work on my own part and not the result of anything else
@pentagrammom It’s not offensive at all; it just doesn’t mean anything. Like I said, I misjudged; I overestimated its sincerity. No problem.
[@bijouxbroussard if social media chat bots had to be identified there would not be an issue, then sincerity would not be in question, as for misjudgements, not fitting stereotypical human behavior gets me misjudged by chat bots always
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Because there are a thousand or so really rich people in America who like it that way..😷
KingofBones1 · 46-50, M
It's not the economic system.It is the oligarchy that controls it
And maybe choose candidates without dementia to stand for election...
nobodyishome · 31-35, F
yes, that's why America is hiring more and more indians every year, so they can be their racist best there also.
Capitalism out of control.
PalteseMalconFunch · 36-40, T
@NativePortlander1970 Aye. And the wonder are like 70 years old
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