Is it human nature to be violent and selfish?

@hunkalove if humans never became civilized, would we still be selfish?

@GuyWithOpinions Probably. Buddha says life is suffering and suffering is caused by desire. Selfishness is desire but it doesn't have to be violent.

@GuyWithOpinions that's a great way to dismiss the recent history of Western imperialism. Naturally I welcome that, it's going to get the West destroyed. So, gahead. No listening to me! No imperialism thingy.
You examples your way outa everything from the British empire to the invasion of Iraq and you win. Gahead.

@Roundandroundwego the conversation was about human nature being violent not about nations and race. We went there because you took it there. Im just explaining violence is everywhere. And being pissed at a canadian becauase of british colonialism like 200 years ago doesnt make sense lol. But im enjoying the history debate

@GuyWithOpinions a mindset hardly develops apart from nations, social classes and people. We're not just individuals. Violence is mostly the result of the Western mentality, in today's world. The violence in the way of human progress isn't inevitable. But it might be for people who can cut me out of the discussion when I'm spot on. So, go with that. It's fatal to the West. A self solving thing. Violence isn't interesting, particularly dangerous, strange in any way or change able for you. The multi polar people think different.
As a Canadian you must've dismissed me long ago. No mindset, no change, Canada. Perfect for ya. And all the West! You ain't listening! And yup.