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What do you question about the structure of society?

What about society do you think works? What about society do you think does not work?
Patientlywaiting · 41-45, F
A more compassionate society where those who have greater power and money pay more tax which is poured into community services, education, free at the point of access health care and social care. Working towards fixing societies problems before they arise.
AlteredMind · 26-30, M
Well, I don't like any form of Government sticking its nose in people's lives. Why is it important to indoctrinate people into hating eachother if you're providing such a service to the people?

I think that trade works, having an agreed upon currency that allows for much more diversity in trade although even that had major drawbacks.

What doesn't work is conditioning citizens into serving the interests of powerful political; corporate entities so much so that they are mindless consumers when there are other countries teaching their citizens to be as tough as nails though I suppose that the powers that be are putting all their eggs in technological warfare advances.

Why build an empire on broken dreams? What kind of legacy is that?
Catzgano · 26-30, F
What doesn’t work Is billionaires controlling everything
@Catzgano Let's get them! There's more of us than there is of them 🤣
Catzgano · 26-30, F
@MsSwann get the pitchforks lol
I think one has to ask which society we are talking about.

If you want to ask about all societies in general, it's a much harder question to answer.
I'd say most people survive and thrive better when we live together as
cooperative and interdependent groups.
One of the chronic problems is the marginalisation of minorities or misfits; the tendency for them to be less well cared for and often bullied.
The greatest difficulties arise when there is conflict over needs and wants,
and an inability to find a solution.
Magnolia21 · 18-21, F
No matter how large or diverse a group may be, it's always the loudest, most obnoxious, and most toxic of them that becomes the spokesperson. And THAT is why we can never truly have an equal discourse on issues.
ZulXeroth · 31-35, M
@Magnolia21 is there any way you think that this could be changed? Either the behavior or the outcome of such?
Magnolia21 · 18-21, F
@ZulXeroth No. Humans, like animals, instinctively need groups. We crave it. Whether it be beliefs, sports teams, or social stances, we are naturally divided. Sadly, since the most awful of the groups do the talking, it won't change and will likely cause more anger and division.
SteelHands · 61-69, M
People keep forgetting that you got no right to say society is wrong and even less right to think you can fix society when even if you try you'll only make things worse.

Fix yo sef.
ZulXeroth · 31-35, M
@SteelHands I agree wholeheartedly with fixing one’s self first. Maybe if we chose to support others in that, things would be better overall, no?
SteelHands · 61-69, M
@ZulXeroth Who thinks *me I'm pretty well fixed* - lives in denial of a depravity only chance failed to tempt.

Groupthink identigender nemesis feminists victimite activists fakebook happiness and googoo smart....

Me , you ... or. any who. is likely someone's dankest nightmare.

Even if a sugar plum dream to slew or two got us all waxwood shoeshiney now and again.
Scarfface · 41-45, M
The western society has worked really well, it's grown an economy and most can get buy following the way of society but it's not sustainable. If the current society breaks down it will be hell, our constructed world has made us too reliant.
revenant · F
The perfect society will never exist.
revenant · F
@ZulXeroth Therapy is not objective anyway. What kind of therapy ? according to whom ? and to follow who's ideas too ?

I know there are people out there who dream of perfect societies where everyone is equal but this will not be achieved till human beings are married and blended with machines.

And the later ? yes some actually do believe it would be for the best.
ZulXeroth · 31-35, M
@revenant right, therapy is more or less a place to work through your experience, how could it ever be objective? My belief is that you’re to be following your own ideas, a therapist is mostly just there to ask you questions that might help you dig a little deeper.
revenant · F
@ZulXeroth Therapy is not hard science, there are many different schools of thoughts and those evolve and change with time. Therapy is biased and can be corrupted.
Anybody not agreeing with the consensus can be deemed crazy or irrational as history showed.
Values will never be universal.
acpguy · C
Liberals / socialists / democrats / Globalists and most LGBTQs do not work nor know how but they have managed to screw up our society.
@ZulXeroth He's an example of one of the hurdles we must overcome before taking the bigger steps, lol.
ZulXeroth · 31-35, M
Aye @MsSwann , I’ll not disagree with you on that matter.
I believe that society is as it is inevitable that it would be. If you started from scratch it would return to approximately where it is now, it's only a matter of time. I think in that respect it works because it reflects our nature.
WintaTheAngle · 41-45, M
I don’t. What society does isn’t really important to me. Me-and my little family are happy and safe. And that’s my job done.
This requires a lot of thought and time and energy
@ZulXeroth I used to.have these thoughts but I'm too tired to even contemplate such things anymore
ZulXeroth · 31-35, M
@Chernobylplaygrounds if you ever find you have the energy to discuss such things again, there’s a place for it here.

I think one thing that really wears people out about these kinds of discussions over time is that others tend to listen with the intention of responding rather than listening to understand.

It sounds like you save your energy for what gives you more joy, and that’s great!
@ZulXeroth This is very true ...I appreciate your well thought out response
I’m entirely indifferent to society.
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ZulXeroth · 31-35, M
@Fable 3 is an absolute game changer, I know it was for me. Could not afford tuition, but still had the required skills and was able to land two different dream jobs and am now moving on to my ultimate dream location (Berlin).

On 4, do you then also think that interest should go out the window?

5 some places line up better in that regard than others, but I think the question of children borders eugenics a bit too closely. I do believe that we should make help for trauma and mental health sufferers a basic human right, and I think if we were more accepting of that as a society we would probably have less damaged children becoming destructive adults.

On 1, I kind of agree, but I think you’d still need a way to make healthy options accessible, which is easier said than done.
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