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We all know that the vax is what is known as mRNA type. Its idea is simple. You don't get a dead or weakened virus that the body can learn to fight like we all got when we were vaxed for small pox or polio. Instead the messenger RNA that is injected causes your body to generate a spike protein that your body then learns and attacks. Pretty smart design and it is a technological wonder. However there are a couple of issues. One: the body winds up attacking the cells that are generating the spike protein and if those cells being attacked are in the blood vessel clotting is going to happen. The clots can be deadly. Then there is the other issue of what happens if the spike protein created by the mRNA in the body doesn't match the spike protein on the virus? Well while the body is busy attacking itself it may well completely ignore the actual virus until it is too late and you have a full blown case of the covid. It seems that this is happening a lot as the vaxed are just as likely to get the disease as the unvaxed. Now if only there were therapies available that work...... OH right there are therapies that cure most covid cases in a few days. Hmmmmm.
hippyjoe1955
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AbbeyRhode 路 F Best Comment
49 fully "vaccinated" people have died from Covid in NJ alone. That's not even counting the ones the shot killed outright.
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AbbeyRhode 路 F
Thank you for Best Answer.
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Confined 路 56-60, M
They seem to have made a one size fits all vax. It seems to have only helped a small percentage of people. Did more harm then good for every one else. I was hopeful that it would be a success, but has proven to be anything but. Too many people died after getting the mRNA or have gotten the delta variant. I do not see a lot of proof that we are any better off. I think a lot more testing is needed and they need to consider reworking the vaccines. I was hopeful with the J&J I really do not trust the mRNAs. I hope J&J will rework their Vax so no blood clots or other issues.
Until they can come up with something that works and is safe I will hold off. Where I work there is like a 40% infection rate. A year and a half later I have not been sick. I seem to be immune or at least able to fight off this virus since I have been exposed many times over.
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Confined 路 56-60, M
I recommend raw honey to help fight covid.
Been eating local raw honey. mmmmm

Giving your immune system a boost and giving your body other nutrients is an exciting benefit of eating honeycomb. According to the USDA, natural vitamins and minerals in raw honey include: calcium, iron, magnesium, zinc, and more. Raw honey also contains Vitamins C, B6 and B12, A, E, and D.

Because raw honey is a rich source of phenols and other antioxidant compounds, it is linked to a reduced risk of heart disease. Antioxidants also help protect your body from cell damage due to free radicals.

Raw honey is often viewed as a natural cure for a cough and/or cold. It is believed that the thick consistency forms a protective film in our throats. Studies have also shown that chewing honeycomb helps clear the airway passages in the esophagus. By doing this, the antibacterial benefits of honeycomb clean the airway passages, which is great for treating colds!
Consuming this sweet snack can help give your immune system a boost. Honey in its purest and most raw form has the ability to support your immune system.

Honey has less negative side effects that mrna has.
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carpediem 路 61-69, M
@Confined Interesting. I've noticed many Apiaries popping up locally. I'll have to look into this.
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smiler2012 路 56-60
{@hippyjoe1955] 馃か a very interesting maybe quiet plausible theory to you and the rest of the anti vaxing brigade . i curious where you got this information actually was it from your messiahs book the doctor don book of quack remedies and cures
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hippyjoe1955 路 61-69, M
@smiler2012 https://www.fda.gov/vaccines-blood-biologics/vaccines/emergency-use-authorization-vaccines-explained

[quote]An Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) is a mechanism to facilitate the availability and use of medical countermeasures, including vaccines, during public health emergencies, [b]such as the current COVID-19 pandemic.[/b] Under an EUA, FDA may allow the use of unapproved medical products, or unapproved uses of approved medical products in an emergency to diagnose, treat, or prevent serious or life-threatening diseases or conditions when certain statutory criteria have been met, [/quote]
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smileylovesgaming 路 31-35, F
@smiler2012 I think I remember hearing they was testing late fall and early winter of 2020.
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hippyjoe1955 路 61-69, M
@smileylovesgaming I have no doubt there has been testing all along but the testing and evaluation has not been completed. Testing for a vax is a minimum 3 year process and sometimes up to a 10 year process. People's lives are put at risk with any vax. Untested and unproven vaxes should not be injected into people when the results of the vax are largely unknown. Then to have the government act as the sales agent for the vax and where I live even offer a million dollar lottery using tax payers money for those who get the vax.... Something is seriously wrong here and it is not just the disease. It is the vax as well.
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Lilpandaa 路 22-25, F
Blood clots are an issue with mRNA vaccines, but I guess they're rare.
Moreover these spike proteins are supposed to be specific to corona virus. I think it'll be effective.
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Lilpandaa 路 22-25, F
@hippyjoe1955 it requires in depth investigation before you claim that each and every issue someone has is caused by vaccines.
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hippyjoe1955 路 61-69, M
@ViciDraco More ignorance on your part. Do try to get out more often. Your cranial rectal insertion must make it very hard to breathe.
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hippyjoe1955 路 61-69, M
@Lilpandaa And an abundance of caution is not in order? You do need to do a little research. VAERS is now reporting about 12,000 vax deaths. It can not be shown that the vax has prevented any covid deaths since the numbers are identical year over year. Science was not your strong point in school was it?
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ViciDraco 路 36-40, M
Pfizer and Moderns are the mRNA vaccines. The very rare condition of the body starving itself is mostly associated with the Johnson and Johnson single dose vaccine which is not mRNA based.

The vaxxed are statistically less likely to get the disease. Those that do are statistically less likely to need hospitalization and statistically less likely to die.

Meanwhile, effective treatments for covid are not without their own risks and survivors of actual covid usually have long term issues even after treatment.

An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. This saying holds.
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hippyjoe1955 路 61-69, M
@ViciDraco No one mentioned the body starving itself. The body attacks its own cells that are generating the spike protein. That is how the body's immune system works. It destroys infected cells. That both Pfizer and Moderna cause clots is well known and well documented. My brother in law recently died from the clots caused by Moderna.
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Confined 路 56-60, M
https://slate.com/technology/2021/07/covid-delta-variant-risk-vaccinated-breakthrough-cases.html?utm_source=pocket-newtab

I found this article interesting.
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hippyjoe1955 路 61-69, M
@Confined It is interesting how the 'official' "but the vaxes work" is in the article even as the article shows that the vaxes don't work. If they did covid would have been eliminated when 40% were vaxed. Now thay are shooting for 90% because the rate has not dropped beyond what normally is to be expected with corona virus infections.
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mylasttimehere 路 26-30, M
Huh? You're half correct
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