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Euro Final Chat. England vrs Italy [I Love Real Football]

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RodionRomanovitch56-60, M
Commiserations mate , I can't begin to imagine just how bad you felt after that. Hence my reluctance to post anything last night.

A few of my thoughts for what it's worth.

Southgate is not the genius that many people were beginning to paint him as. He did well to steer his team to a final and deserves credit for that. But when the chips were down he was found wanting. How a team with such an abundance of exciting attacking talent can be set up in such a way that their star striker doesn't even get a sight of goal in 120 mins is inexcusable.

To sit back after the gift of an early goal and expect you're going to keep an accomplished outfit like Italy out for the next ninety minutes was both naive and foolish.

At half time changes should have been made and weren't. Italy picked up where they left off , dominating the midfield and enjoying almost total possession. The equaliser was an inevitability by this point and England were lucky not to lose the game in normal time.

The players (Grealish ,Sancho and Rashford) that should have been brought on to ease that pressure weren't introduced until late into added time , apparently just to take penalties. This was madness. Three kids on who barely had the time to lose the nervous energy in their legs now being asked to to take penalties (bar Grealish , again which was odd) in the biggest game of their life. I knew as soon as Rashford ambled up and the Italian goalie didn't move that the game was up. He had to find the corner and he couldn't , hopelessly over-compensating.

Even then there was a reprieve for England as the usually deadly Jorginho somehow contrived to miss his penalty.

So up steps the 19yr old Bukayo Saka , who has had an absolute stinker since coming on and now has the weight of the world on his shoulders. The inevitable happens.

England have got a good team and have showed they now have the discipline to play out a gameplan. Where they were let down here was in their absolute timidity and their reluctance to change things when the game dictated it. (And the fiasco of the penalty picks.) That falls squarely on the manager.
Burnley12341-45, M
HT.

Excellent first half from England and deserve the lead. Mostly nullified Italy's game and look sporadically dangerous. Southgate (the man with the plan) worked to exploit the space on the left of the Italian defence.

England defenders and DCMs all look strong. Italy did come more into it in the last ten minutes and its not over.

I'll take that.
Burnley12341-45, M
@Elessar BTW, we are pessimistic about the NT because of such a long history of failure. No other 'major power' has won so little.

And Abzorbz is a bloody pessimist. Lovely person, but a pessimist. 馃槣
Burnley12341-45, M
@RodionRomanovitch Bitter Welsh scouser. 馃槑
RodionRomanovitch56-60, M
@Burnley123 Game on now la !
Burnley12341-45, M
Congrats to Italy but f+++ this hurts.
LookingForTheSummer31-35, M
What Southgate did tonight just reminded me of Domenech's decision in World Cup 2006 final. He brought Trezeguet, a player who had barely played in that tournament, in for penalty shootouts. He missed it, of course, and Italy became the champion.

I think that was a stupid decision from Southgate. He had completely ignored Rashford and Sancho during the tournament, then brought them in for penalties and expected them to have high spirits and score?
SW-User
I saw an info graphic yesterday that makes me want England to win.
Burnley12341-45, M
@SW-User So INTP
InOtterWordsF
I'm really nervous
SW-User
@InOtterWords need a fuckin shot
Burnley12341-45, M
@InOtterWords Saka is playing like an Arsenal player.
Burnley12341-45, M
Full time. Italy much the better team in second half and deserve to be level.

England in the ropes but hanging on. Italy not creating too much but dominating the ball.

Saka has been crap and England don't have an out ball. We need to turn it round
Burnley12341-45, M
England dominate first half, Italy the second. Extra time was even. Neither team deserves to lose or win.

After all the thunder and blood, its down to this.

Penalties.

The most most random and shitty way to decide a final.
JimboSaturn51-55, M
@Burnley123 Hate it not a mea sure of the best team
Technically the Italians are better . Our lads are physically stronger .
SUCH tension ....
Cmon England 馃彺鬆仹鬆仮鬆仴鬆伄鬆仹鬆伩
Kwek0036-40, M
Congratz to Italy. Really came back after a long first 30 minutes.
But it could have gone wrong win the 2nd part of extra time.
Burnley12341-45, M
@Kwek00 Or in a fucking decade. 馃槅
Kwek0036-40, M
@Burnley123 No worries, take your time. 馃懍

It took me 2 days this cup.
Elessar26-30, M
@Kwek00 Agreed on Chiellini's grab, not quite about Sterling's fall.
adorbz26-30, F
sweeeeet caroline oh oh oh 馃お
Burnley12341-45, M
@adorbz Neil Diamond and also the Lightening Seeds are top of the UK download charts. 馃き
InOtterWordsF
@adorbz @Burnley123


My playlist
adorbz26-30, F
@InOtterWords you are the england superfan of SW 馃お
Burnley12341-45, M
Shit. It had been coming.
adorbz26-30, F
@Burnley123 yeeeeeep 馃槩
RodionRomanovitch56-60, M
@Burnley123 If they'd have been a bit more positive after going ahead so early they might have had this wrapped up by now. Just sitting back and inviting them on is not smart tactics.
FORZA ITALIA! 馃弳鉁岎焽焽
Kwek0036-40, M
The booing during the national anthem of the opponent, should cost them a goal.
Burnley12341-45, M
@Kwek00 I agree with you. Its embarrassing.
Kwek0036-40, M
@Burnley123 Ottergirl is right too ofcourse, but it's not the first time. No respect what so ever.

Anyway, I wanted to make a post but can just as well say it here. England is better. Italy only had a good last 20 minutes, but are unable to get a shot at goal.

There is at least more football to see in this one, then the Copa America this morning. Those people were just fighting and trying to break someones leg.
Burnley12341-45, M
@Kwek00 I don't take the goal punishment thing seriously but I fully acknowledge that booing another team's anthem lacks class. I would never do it and I know a lot of other English people who find that embarrassing. Unfortunately, my country has a number of dick heads who don't deserve this team. Pardon the language.
PatheticZombieClown46-50, M
Using this most advanced microprocessor technology i will simulate the game...top wins 13-8 馃檧
adorbz26-30, F
England are actually playing better than Italy is this a dream 馃馃
SammyJo51-55, F
@adorbz Indeed! I'm highly impressed....and surprised!

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SW-User
If England win I鈥檓 streaking
InOtterWordsF
@SW-User 馃ぃ馃ぃ馃ぃ
SW-User
@InOtterWords I鈥檓 serious 馃
InOtterWordsF
@SW-User I'm sure you are
adorbz26-30, F
England can we have another goal then it won鈥檛 be so scary 馃ズ
InOtterWordsF
What drinks and snacks you got?
SammyJo51-55, F
@InOtterWords Nacho's.....me and my 7 year old are having Dandelion & Burdock....the wife's on the wine - white.....

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I've nearly finished my finger nails ..... 馃槵
adorbz26-30, F
Shut up cheater sterling 馃憖
adorbz26-30, F
LUKEEEEE SHAW 馃槏
SammyJo51-55, F
Exciting!

Was a bit tearful over the pre-match stuff...when they talked of Denmark...

Must remember to use waterproof mascara next time...

C'mon England!

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SJD x
Burnley12341-45, M
It's the hope that kills you. After Jorginho (their best penalty taker got saved by Puckford...).

The England takers were too young and callow.
SammyJo51-55, F
WoW! Well, I guess I don't get the extra prize, eh? Lol! But still, my guy of the team gets his first goal! Impressed!

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MoonpennyF
God, what an awful way to finish after all that - penalties 馃槥

Congratulations Italy
Well done England. You did us proud 馃彺鬆仹鬆仮鬆仴鬆伄鬆仹鬆伩
SW-User
I'd give my cock and balls for an English win
adorbz26-30, F
@SW-User you can give them to the players while you鈥檙e streaking
SW-User
@adorbz "heard you lot needed a 12th man?"
Burnley12341-45, M
Y@aaaaaaaaaaaaaas
Elessar26-30, M
Holy f*CK 2 minutes 馃槄
Congrats pizza lovers 鉁屸湆
adorbz26-30, F
Ooh scary shot 馃憖
Elessar26-30, M
Elessar26-30, M
Aaand extra times 馃槪
nem1636-40, M
@Elessar not too suprising,tbf.
Elessar26-30, M
@nem16 I know, but I have only so much nails
nem1636-40, M
@Elessar Thats true,lol,I couldn't bear penalties...
SammyJo51-55, F
Just knew that was coming....

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Elessar26-30, M
Chiellini wtf are you doing
nem1636-40, M
That's a red surely?
SW-User
Have a pint
Elessar26-30, M
Bonucci 馃檱鈥嶁檪锔忦煓団嶁檪锔

 
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