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If you don't speak out, you're complicit?

Personally, I disagree with this statement as an absolute. While I can agree with the statement under the right conditions, I mostly see it being used to promote dichotomous thinking. Do you agree, disagree?
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You could be clueless or suffering from Patty Hearst syndrome, I guess.
TheSeptikSkeptik · 46-50, M
@MistyCee I could be I guess. I could also be a ten foot dragon but that doesn't necessarily mean that it's true. How would we go about finding out which one of us is right, or "clueless" without making hasty generalizations?
@TheSeptikSkeptik I wasnt intending to attack you. I could have said I.

But I don't know what the answer really is, because I think lots of victims actually are somewhat complicit.
TheSeptikSkeptik · 46-50, M
@MistyCee You're fine. I didn't feel as if I were being attacked. My main argument is just that it is not an absolute and is situational. I may have not explained it very well or it may just be irrelevant. There are endless examples of people using this phrase to attack others when their own position is just logically, morally (in regards to well being) , or factually incorrect. I was more or less looking to falsify my opinion on the matter just to see if I am thinking logically and reasonably or if I'm overlooking something. To me it seems to presuppose motivations for one's inaction on a topic. In order to prove somebody's complicity, under normal circumstances you would have to demonstrate motivation or intent. Am I missing something?
@TheSeptikSkeptik Wow. Pretty deep.

I'm going to go with a simple, pretty standard response and say it's complicated.

Clearly it often is situational, and just as clearly, the situation varies with the individuals involved, especially with a label like "complicit?"

Is a five year old complicit in abuse?

What about a ten year old?

Or an 18 year old who's learned he likes doing to other little boys what was done to him?

That last one is probably worse than just complicit in a lot of people's eyes, but turn it into a mother who was molested by her father and let's her daughter get molested by her grandfather?
TheSeptikSkeptik · 46-50, M
@MistyCee Thank you. That was basically the point that I was trying to get at. It's not an absolute. Anybody can be wrong about their beliefs, including people who are emotionally invested in the sentiment of that phrase. I was just having trouble putting it into more relatable words and explaining it. When you use that phrase, it makes a whole host of unfalsifiable logical implications that would be near impossible to demonstrate to be true.