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Adstar · 56-60, M
Think of it in this way.. Only perfect people can enter into an eternal perfect existence.. Because once an imperfect person entered into a perfect eternal existence it would no longer be perfect because it would now contain an imperfect being...
The Bible declares that little ones live for a time without the knowledge of good and evil.. So if a little one dies during their time of innocence they have not sinned and therefore are perfectly acceptable to enter Gods perfect eternal existence.. The Bible does not give an actual age where this status dies.. I think it may be different for each individuel..
The Bible declares that little ones live for a time without the knowledge of good and evil.. So if a little one dies during their time of innocence they have not sinned and therefore are perfectly acceptable to enter Gods perfect eternal existence.. The Bible does not give an actual age where this status dies.. I think it may be different for each individuel..
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Adstar · 56-60, M
@Blazer420
[quote]@Adstar that does make sense to me. Do you think there's a possibility thou that instead of imperfect people going somewhere of eternal torture and evil they would instead go somewhere of eternal imperfection.[/quote]
This is where i need Faith.. Trust in God.. If it where up to me and if it was possible i would cause these people to cease to exist.. But i trust in Gods final decision on the matter out of Faith..
[quote]@Adstar that does make sense to me. Do you think there's a possibility thou that instead of imperfect people going somewhere of eternal torture and evil they would instead go somewhere of eternal imperfection.[/quote]
This is where i need Faith.. Trust in God.. If it where up to me and if it was possible i would cause these people to cease to exist.. But i trust in Gods final decision on the matter out of Faith..
Blazer420 · 36-40, M
@Adstar I do trust in God, that he loves us and protects us always. I feel annihilation is more likely due to not only it being less cruel and making more sense. But also in John 3:16. Whoever believes in the son will not perish but have everlasting life. Perish means cease to exist, not tormented forever and ever. I do know other verses do seem to imply eternal torment, but I suppose it's all in translation also those are from different authors
Blazer420 · 36-40, M
@Adstar that's true. Let's say you leave those toddlers with a bunch of candy that they can eat, but leave another kind of candy out and tell them not to eat it cause it will kill them. Then also allow once of their siblings in whom you know will successfully trick them into eating said candy. Idk just seems weird to me. That's kinda an analogy for the fruit and Adam, Eve and the serpent.
BlueSkyKing · M
Blazer420 · 36-40, M
@BlueSkyKing I've thought about that too lol wouldn't it be kinda cruel to teach someone about Jesus and them reject and go to hell as opposed to let them stay unaware and not go to hell
BlueSkyKing · M
@Blazer420 Hitchens often said "we’re born sick and are commanded to get well". Punishment from what Adam and Eve did.
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
@BlueSkyKing Just in case anyone doesn't get it here's a longer quote
[quote]Once you assume a creator and a plan, it makes us objects in a cruel experiment, whereby we are created sick, and commanded to be well. And over us, to supervise this, is installed a celestial dictatorship, a kind of divine North Korea. Greedy, exigent, greedy for uncritical praise from dawn until dusk and swift to punish the original sins with which it so tenderly gifted us in the very first place.”
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[quote]Once you assume a creator and a plan, it makes us objects in a cruel experiment, whereby we are created sick, and commanded to be well. And over us, to supervise this, is installed a celestial dictatorship, a kind of divine North Korea. Greedy, exigent, greedy for uncritical praise from dawn until dusk and swift to punish the original sins with which it so tenderly gifted us in the very first place.”
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exexec · 61-69, C
That is not part of my theology at all.