GhostlyGrey · 26-30, M
Lol even I have been through and wouldn’t know what to do
NewKidInTown · 51-55, M
@GhostlyGrey It IS difficult, I know.
Miram · 31-35, F
Offline or online? It makes all the difference.
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Miram · 31-35, F
@NewKidInTown
That gives you more resources. Because most needs are expressed non-verbally. And when having diagnosed depression many only realize what they want in the process, not before.
I have to say that the first thing is finding out what they are uncomfortable with, their boundaries. For me it's complements and physical touch when I am having an episode. For my friend it's being pushed to deal with people, having guests or any form of sudden communication. It can be anything.
Then instead of pushing them to do stuff, you create opportunities for them to grow or négociate emotions. Like my ex, he wanted to cheer me up without making me feel like we are different emotional dimensions, so he brought puppies from the shelter he works at and pretended to need help to clean them. And I left bed to do that when I saw them.
I think more important than anything , you have to show them you will be there for them. And no matter what mental state they are in, you aren't burdened by it.
That gives you more resources. Because most needs are expressed non-verbally. And when having diagnosed depression many only realize what they want in the process, not before.
I have to say that the first thing is finding out what they are uncomfortable with, their boundaries. For me it's complements and physical touch when I am having an episode. For my friend it's being pushed to deal with people, having guests or any form of sudden communication. It can be anything.
Then instead of pushing them to do stuff, you create opportunities for them to grow or négociate emotions. Like my ex, he wanted to cheer me up without making me feel like we are different emotional dimensions, so he brought puppies from the shelter he works at and pretended to need help to clean them. And I left bed to do that when I saw them.
I think more important than anything , you have to show them you will be there for them. And no matter what mental state they are in, you aren't burdened by it.
Miram · 31-35, F
@NewKidInTown Also please remember to take care of yourself 🤗 It's helpful to do so. That means being nice to you if you make mistakes or feel you are not doing enough.
NewKidInTown · 51-55, M
@Miram Great, terrific advice. Thank you so much for this, and yes, I find visual clues are very important to knowing how she is feeling, and if she is up for doing anything or needing alone time
Dusty101 · F
I think listening to them and showing you care.. advise.. but don't judge.. caring really is the key. Depression comes in all different waves and forms so it's them not you.. knowing that you're the supportive one will help.. and when he or she is happier their memory of how wonderful and compassionate you've been will never be forgotten 💚
NewKidInTown · 51-55, M
@Dusty101 No, I am trying not to judge, and yes, I am discovering that depression and anxiety has many facets and appearances, displays itself in many different ways, from tears to fatigue. One moment fine, the next utterly misearble with herself, filled with worry and stress
PixieParty · 41-45, F
From my own personal experience (as the one with the depression and anxiety), just having someone be THERE physically or not is HUGE. This is especially true for depression. I could sit in silence and just listen to somebody talk about anything, because I'm not in the mood to talk. But being left alone kills me. I deal with it, but it hurts.
For anxiety, mostly just being aware of the anxiety coping tactics we would learn in therapy, because when an anxiety/panic attack hits, that's the first thing I forget (how to think, about anything else). It goes beyond "just breathe." It's more like the five-four-three-two-one or something similar, proven tactics used in therapy.
For anxiety, mostly just being aware of the anxiety coping tactics we would learn in therapy, because when an anxiety/panic attack hits, that's the first thing I forget (how to think, about anything else). It goes beyond "just breathe." It's more like the five-four-three-two-one or something similar, proven tactics used in therapy.
NewKidInTown · 51-55, M
@PixieParty Thank you for your thoughtful reply. I will try to remember this.
TeresaRudolph71 · 51-55, F
I can relate, as I struggled with anxiety and depression, off and on, for many years.
I can't speak for everyone, as we're all different, but I think there were many times when I just needed someone to listen and be there for me. So many people were full of advice, or wanted to try to tell me what I was really thinking or feeling. This was very frustrating and just added to the stress I was already dealing with.
That isn't to say that some sensible advice isn't sometimes helpful, but sometimes people really just need to be heard, and they often need to find certain answers on their own. The most helpful people I talked to were the ones who listened without interrupting, and who knew what questions to ask.
And, of course, let them know that you care. And if they're really getting discouraged or down on themselves, remind them of their good qualities, try to give them hope and encouragement, and show them lots of love.
This may not work for everyone, especially someone who is severely depressed and possibly suicidal, but that's what I would try to do.
Best of luck!
I can't speak for everyone, as we're all different, but I think there were many times when I just needed someone to listen and be there for me. So many people were full of advice, or wanted to try to tell me what I was really thinking or feeling. This was very frustrating and just added to the stress I was already dealing with.
That isn't to say that some sensible advice isn't sometimes helpful, but sometimes people really just need to be heard, and they often need to find certain answers on their own. The most helpful people I talked to were the ones who listened without interrupting, and who knew what questions to ask.
And, of course, let them know that you care. And if they're really getting discouraged or down on themselves, remind them of their good qualities, try to give them hope and encouragement, and show them lots of love.
This may not work for everyone, especially someone who is severely depressed and possibly suicidal, but that's what I would try to do.
Best of luck!
NewKidInTown · 51-55, M
@TeresaRudolph71 Thank you. Yes, I do try to listen and be attentive, and I would never assume to know how they are feeling or what it is like for them, having never felt this way myself. Im just trying to figure out the best way to help and be supportive.
nonsensiclesnail · F
When I’m depressed the only thing I want is to know someone cares about me. Not with words but in actions. They can’t fix anything for me.
NewKidInTown · 51-55, M
@nonsensiclesnail Thank you
I think I can do that :)
I think I can do that :)
NiftyWhite · 46-50, F
just listen. assure them that ur there for them and actually do it without complaining or acting put off. if they are so depressed they can’t move at least force a change of scenery, lay them in bed then on the couch or to another room so they can do something.... i mean i can keep going...
NewKidInTown · 51-55, M
@NiftyWhite Thank you, those are all wonderful suggestions.
in10RjFox · M
You need to find ways to involve them in some tasks or activity .. that makes them hook up to you.. The problem is basically loneliness and they can't fend for themselves. If you are far away, make them come and see you, so they get to leave home and take a bus/ train trip .. or give them some assignments and pay for it, so they get motivated to perform and are occupied in their mind. Tap on their talents.
NewKidInTown · 51-55, M
@in10RjFox Yes, I agree keeping busy is good, so they have less time to be alone with their thoughts.
NiftyWhite · 46-50, F
@NewKidInTown i would use caution with this. when i was depressed the LAST thing i needed was something else to do. i couldn’t read, i couldn’t work out, i sure as hell wasnt taking a french class, or a course, i wasn’t starting any project - even though i did all those things before — because i didn’t have any focus or the energy. i was in fight or flight response mode all day everyday. imagine yourself having an uncasted broken leg and ask yourself what activities you might like doing. for someone who’s really depressed, that’s kind of what it’s like. you can’t stop thinking about it. it handicaps you.
NewKidInTown · 51-55, M
@NiftyWhite I will keep that in mind. Thank you for enlightening me on what she may be feeling.
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NewKidInTown · 51-55, M
@Loretta78 Thank you, I will give this a try next time : )
Id say its best to reassure that you need them. When i feel worthless or not needed i have someone to tell what i mean to them. how ive impacted them
NewKidInTown · 51-55, M
@Cow1919 That's good advice. Everyone wants to feel needed or important to someone else.
ravenwind43 · 51-55, F
Be willing to listen and knowing you can't fix it, esp when it comes to depression. :)
NewKidInTown · 51-55, M
@ravenwind43 I know I can't fix anything. I'm just hoping to make things slightly better, for both of us.
Let me let u in on a little secret ok? Ppl that don’t want to change and remain in their dilemma...will only change when they want to change period.
in10RjFox · M
@NewKidInTown Who is the SHE you are referring to ?
NewKidInTown · 51-55, M
@in10RjFox my wife
in10RjFox · M
@NewKidInTown oh!.. we were talking in general, which need not be true for all case. Anything is case to case basis actually. Anything happened recently that caused such depression ? like loss of any family member or friend etc.?
All you need to do is to find ways to bring them into the future (into something new) .. and not let them dwell in the past .. Try to write emails/ send messages, and avoid phone calls for it can disturb them often. Emails / letters are powerful tool that can make them read in full .. Surprise her with a letter by post, where you able to put your thoughts in full and how you want her back in action ..
All you need to do is to find ways to bring them into the future (into something new) .. and not let them dwell in the past .. Try to write emails/ send messages, and avoid phone calls for it can disturb them often. Emails / letters are powerful tool that can make them read in full .. Surprise her with a letter by post, where you able to put your thoughts in full and how you want her back in action ..
iQuit · F
go see a psychologist
or.... talk to someone who gives great advice so you can make positive changes that will help you see a better outlook on your life
or.... talk to someone who gives great advice so you can make positive changes that will help you see a better outlook on your life
NewKidInTown · 51-55, M
@iQuit I try to be a good listener, I find sometimes I dont know what to say, or find what I do say is small or insufficient.
iQuit · F
@NewKidInTown Sometimes actions speak louder than words.
Quality over quantity of time spent with others is enriching
and never doubt for one moment or belittle your contribution to the process
after all depression is like a slope
and with your support, somehow they have not slipped and hit rock bottom
it's true friends who help see the silver-lining in life
they bring a smile to your face when you can not see for your own a good reason to smile
idk, the reason for their depression but if you'd like some natural remedies might help them
https://draxe.com/natural-remedies-depression/
this is a link of options that may help somehow improve their situation
Quality over quantity of time spent with others is enriching
and never doubt for one moment or belittle your contribution to the process
after all depression is like a slope
and with your support, somehow they have not slipped and hit rock bottom
it's true friends who help see the silver-lining in life
they bring a smile to your face when you can not see for your own a good reason to smile
idk, the reason for their depression but if you'd like some natural remedies might help them
https://draxe.com/natural-remedies-depression/
this is a link of options that may help somehow improve their situation
NewKidInTown · 51-55, M
@iQuit thank you! She is currently on meds, but has recently regressed, even while still on them.
Dontknowme · 31-35, M
What you do will always be inadequate if your goal is fixing it. I dont want to be that guy, but I will be anyways; you cant fix it. What you can do is listen. Be a shoulder to cry on. Be somebody to go "yeah, that asshole!" with. It can't be your whole relationship, but you can only do what you can.
NewKidInTown · 51-55, M
@Dontknowme Thank you. I am well aware I can't fix things, only to be supportive. Its HOW to be supportive that I struggle with.
Dontknowme · 31-35, M
Just talk, be there for them. Listen to their problems, maybe remind them to take a break if it all gets to be too much. (Read, music, whatever works). Perhaps most importantly, remind them that there are proffesionals who can help with this. And be there through that process if need be. Theres one one good answer, you will be disappointed here if thats what you are after. What works for one person wont necessarily work for another. All you can do is really keep doing what you are doing, caring and being there for them. For many people, thats all they really want.
NewKidInTown · 51-55, M
@Dontknowme Thank you. Your words are encouraging and supportive to what I have been doing :)