Which bf is the most sincere ?

Neither one wants to get married so it’s a tie

If they're asking for an engagement ring, then they're issuing an ultimatum.

Certainly the guys could have proposed on their own, but they did not. Guy #1 responded to pressure, by kicking the can down the road. Guy #2 gave an honest opinion.

However, your friends should be making other plans, if they're marriage-goal oriented, as neither of these guys is ready to make a full-time commitment.

The second one says how he really feels about it, the first one tried to compromise to avoid engagement or talking about it. So the second one is definitely more honest and clear.

I think all four are standing on weak grounds.

Any type of commitment is fragile if you have to ask for it. It is either given naturally or meaningless. These girls asked to be offered that chance so they put themselves in positions requiring passiveness.

I will never ask a person to get me an engagement ring.

If that's the sort of relationship I believe in, I will get them the ring instead and propose and they can refuse.

And their refusal would be extra information giving me the chance to decide whatever I need in a relationship, stay or walk out.

Not that I believe in marriage either.

Well it is a problem women created. In days of old when a man courted a woman he was getting a person who would be special to him creat a home and family. Now days lots of women have been out parting many have babies from an old flame or bf. She is now asking a man for a commitment but what is he getting out of it? He is being asked to spend 2000-20000 or more for what. What is he getting of equal value. Disclaimer your friends may not fit any of this they may be a virgin or only have slept with the guy they are asking and no one else.

boyfriend one. Because he cared enough to make her feel special and he didn't try to manipulate her by putting his opinion in her head. If she feels like marriage is just a piece of paper she'd of said it herself.

Paper makes great fire starters. Marriage in this day and age is a business, not generally for the people getting married. For the people selling them what they "want". Flowers, hotels, clothes, gifts etc etc.

Neither of them are ready for marriage.just both have ways of telling her.
Hmm!

1st

2 was honest at least

Second.

The 1st does not want to be a single dad