Should women make the first move more often?

The whole situation around "making the first move" is just another example of society being a clusterfuck and there not really being any solutions. It tends to be true that women don't want to make the first move, and if they don't want to, that's obviously their right. It also tends to be true that women feel creeped out if a guy makes the first move and she's not into it, which is valid; ya can't help the way you feel. That leads to men not wanting to make the first move either, which has bad consequences, but you can't really fault someone for not wanting to be seen as creepy.

All this results in a natural stalemate where nobody does anything, and the only ways out are for someone to either make a move or get around the problem entirely by creating a social space where interest is implicit. Go on some dating apps. Women, get out of your comfort zone. Men, take some risks. Non-binary people, do whatever non-binary people do idk. Or everyone do none of that and continue being alone, y'all can do whatever you want idc.

I think after #Metoo and modern feminists that women have put themselves in a disadvantage with this type of thing now. They dont want to make the first move but have also made it incredibly dumb for men to make the first move.
More and more men are not making first moves or treating women as we desire because of fear of consequences and I dont mean treating women bad. I mean things as simple as opening a door for a women. Anything can set some women off now and well they have pretty much fucked everything up when it comes to dating, being chivalrous and dating

Thanks to that #MeToo movement. More guys will be hesitant on approaching a woman. Personally I have no problem with forward women.

Women should make the first move when the mood hits them. We all survive disinterest and even outright rejection.

If they want to.

I believe a gentleman makes the first move. I never hit on men, blame it on society. I only flirt with women because if I didn’t, I would never get laid.

I hit my crushes many times and I got rejection. No thank you. I already had secondhand embarassment for being too bold.

Yes they should. It would save everybody a lot of time.

Yes, based on our experience. In high school, I asked Lynn for a date, and she turned me down, although she had a good excuse. I took it as rejection, so I didn't ask for another. She waited and waited. Finally, she asked me to take her to a dance. That was our first date, and we married as soon as she graduated from college. If she hadn't asked....who knows?

I make the first move all the damn time.

I'm struggling with making first moves because it feels so wrong , yet sometimes I want to.
It just feels as if I make myself vulnerable to him and give him a signal that I need him or something you know?

There's nothing like first move. Its something mutual. Whether its a spark and sudden tsunami, or a slow gentle tidal built up. There's a lot of mutual signals flowing to and fro, often unconsciously. So i dont think there is a first move.

If she’s really interested, and believed the guy is either shy or too much of a gentleman…she will make a move .

I honestly don't care, If I like her enough I will make the first move.

People play too many games

Nooooo

Women and men have different roles in my opinion and I would never make the first move. I also believe that when women make the first move it sets a tone that I wouldn't prefer.
The man is the pursuer,

Hmm, I don't like the idea of making the first move. It doesn't suit well with me and it makes me feel like I am desperate.

If I do I'd probably toy with him.

They don't because it is still generally expected that the man does.