basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
Thank you!
I hated the movie in many ways.
Jack is reduced to a one dimensional villain.
You get the feeling he's gonna try to murder his family like 5 minutes into the movie.
Jack in the book is a layered person.
He is flawed and struggling with addiction, childhood abuse and mistakes, yet trying to be a better person.
That's what makes the Overlook so insidious.
It twists his mind and preys on his trauma to drive him to madness.
I hated the movie in many ways.
Jack is reduced to a one dimensional villain.
You get the feeling he's gonna try to murder his family like 5 minutes into the movie.
Jack in the book is a layered person.
He is flawed and struggling with addiction, childhood abuse and mistakes, yet trying to be a better person.
That's what makes the Overlook so insidious.
It twists his mind and preys on his trauma to drive him to madness.
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robingoodfellow · M
@basilfawlty89
I found that to be at the heart of the film. I don't see the film as much of a ghost story at all. But I guess we see it differently.
The real horror of The Shining is not the ghosts. It's the real ghosts such as trauma, and at its heart is a foray into domestic violence
I found that to be at the heart of the film. I don't see the film as much of a ghost story at all. But I guess we see it differently.
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
@robingoodfellow I could see that perspective, but where's Jack's character development? We see nothing of his own childhood abuse at the hands of his father. We barely see his struggles with alcoholism. He's just a one dimensional villain.
robingoodfellow · M
@basilfawlty89 I don't disagree with you. But this is why I said throw the book out the window.
The first time I watched it I was disappointed because I saw only fragments of the book in there. But watching it repeatedly and taking the film on its own terms I began to appreciate it.
The first time I watched it I was disappointed because I saw only fragments of the book in there. But watching it repeatedly and taking the film on its own terms I began to appreciate it.
Coralmist · 41-45, F
So ironic my dad and I were just talking about this book. I said I've never seen the movie or read the book, but the book is usually better! Now I need to get the book and movie lol.
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
@Coralmist the movie isn't bad per sé, just...not respectful to the source material.
The movie scared me as a 9 year old.
The book still scares me.
The movie scared me as a 9 year old.
The book still scares me.
Coralmist · 41-45, F
@basilfawlty89 I think both will scare me!! But being a movie buff and Nicholson fan, can't believe I have not seen it..
Strongtea · 22-25, M
The film is amazing but now I’m gonna read the book! Thanks for the inspo!!
DearAmbellina2113 · 41-45, F
I feel like the book really dives more into how sentient the Overlook Hotel really is, which was the driving force behind Jack's descent. He already had dark tendencies, the hotel just nurtured those tendencies to full bloom.
basilfawlty89 · 36-40, M
@DearAmbellina2113 yes!
In the movie the existence of malevolent entities was left mostly ambiguous.
In the book it's a silent evil that slowly accrued over the years into something normally sinister, but outright dangerous to more psychically aware people.
In the movie the existence of malevolent entities was left mostly ambiguous.
In the book it's a silent evil that slowly accrued over the years into something normally sinister, but outright dangerous to more psychically aware people.
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Punches · 46-50, F
I thought it was a romantic comedy?
The green mile is my favorite from SK
robingoodfellow · M
I think it's King's masterpiece
HowtoDestroyAngels · 46-50, M
@robingoodfellow I've ready nearly everything he's written, but in my opinion The Stand beats out The Shining.
robingoodfellow · M
@HowtoDestroyAngels it's hard for me to argue that, the Stand is a major achievement.
But The Shining always stays with me.
But The Shining always stays with me.
tobynshorty · 51-55, F
Dr Death continues the story
HowtoDestroyAngels · 46-50, M
@tobynshorty It's actually Doctor Sleep. It's fantastic!
tobynshorty · 51-55, F
@HowtoDestroyAngels you are correct. Thanks for pointing that out ☺
exchrist · 31-35
Terrible movie.