I live in a democrat state.

Find it hilarious most of the people in my state voted for Biden. Our state pretty much just got shut down again due to Covid now all the Biden voters are crying because of it. Know who would have stopped it from happening?

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pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M

I watched a 42 minute podcast in its entirety with Biden, and he claimed his organisation was committing the 'greatest election fraud in American history'

Dont believe me? Here is the whole podcast so the context is there. Question starts at 33:45 and where he actually says it is 35:24

alongside 'we have to overwhelm the system' and 'force y(our) outcome'.

https://crooked.com/podcast/joe-biden-pod-save-america-interview/

If you think I'm lying, just watch it for yourself and skip the first part talking about climate and economics and go to 33:45 where the question about polls is asked, if you are short on time :)

Adaydreambeliever · 56-60, F

@pianoplayingsteve @pianoplayingsteve you LISTENED you did not watch.. because there is NO video of Biden talking.. the person claiming to be him doesn't even sound like him..

The clue that this is not real is in the clearly biased title of the site.. crooked.com.. if you look it's a site deliberately trying to dig dirt on Biden. That being so do you REALLY think that Biden WOULD give them an interview?? No.. if you believe otherwise that demonstrates your difficulty thinking logically..

pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M

@Adaydreambeliever the site is pro Biden and the podcast is one of a long series of podcasts with him...

Adaydreambeliever · 56-60, F

@pianoplayingsteve well knowing you, you entirely misunderstood it then.. it's not hard they seem to use a lot of long words... that might be confusing for you.

pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M

@Adaydreambeliever you literally just mistook a pro Biden site as an anti Biden site. lets say I did misunderstand it :) I provided the link and the time stamp, check it out for yourself :)

Adaydreambeliever · 56-60, F

@pianoplayingsteve well I didn't really look at it.. but the title DOES still give it away.. it's an extremist site.. I did try to listen to it but have little time and got bored, it didn't sound like him.. but I do think that in any event YOU misunderstood what he was saying and you turned it into something it wasn't!

pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M

@Adaydreambeliever nope, it is a mainstream pro Biden site, or are you proposing that Biden shares a platform with extremists? And if you have little time, skip to where the question is asked at 33:45 and he says it at 35:24 that's less than 3 minutes:) how informed can you be if just three minutes of talking from Biden bores you to point that you turn it off? :) if you are so sure I'm wrong, watch those couple of minutes, and if you need more context, watch a bit more :)

Adaydreambeliever · 56-60, F

@pianoplayingsteve Well we still don't know if it IS Biden... but here's what he actually allegedly said.. in response to the question what would you say to people who haven't voted yet..

But one of the things that I think is most important is those who haven’t voted yet. First of all, go to iwillvote.com to make a plan. Exactly how you’re going to vote, where you’re going to vote, when you’re going to vote. Because it can get complicated. Because the Republicans are doing everything they can to make it harder for people to vote. Particularly people of color to vote. So go to iwillvote.com. Secondly, we’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for President Obama’s administration before this, we have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics. What the president is trying to do is discourage people from voting by implying that their vote won’t be counted. It can’t be counted. We’re going to challenge it and all these things. If enough people vote, it’s going to overwhelm the system. You see what’s happening now. You guys know it as well as I do. You see the long, long lines in early voting. You see the millions of people have already cast a ballot. And so, don’t be intimidated. If, in fact, you have any problem, go to and I don’t have the number, but it’s 833-DEM-VOTE. The letters D-E-M-V-O-T-E. Call that number. We have over a thousand lawyers, over a thousand of them answering the phone. If you think there’s any challenge to your voting, go to 833-DEM-VOTE. Dial those letters on your phone that will get you the assistance that we have already put in place.

As to my boredom... yes I have a low threshold.. this is because I have very little time... I work three jobs, and am also studying a degree.. and run a house etc etc... so I do have to be careful to prioritise how I spend my time.. I come here to talk to friends.. and I answer the odd post.. I almost never get bogged down in heavy debate as I don't have the time or resources.. You are honoured that I decided, on this occasion to look more into this.. Usually I just don't have the time.. PS logically no one can listen to every debate.. that's a fact.. you haven't ... and neither have I.. We have to be mindful that this election doesn't really affect me.. I am not that interested in it.. I just despise Trump and with good reason.. there's enough out there reflecting and supporting that viewpoint..

So. back to the words.. there is NO evidence of voter fraud there as you claim.. as I hypothesised you DID misunderstand.. so perhaps it's you who needs to go have another listen! Try active listening this time maybe? The site Iwillvote is just a site where you can check whether you are eligable and work out how best to vote.. that's not fraud.. it's sensible! If one is voting in person one has to check out where to vote.. postal votes are new to many people and they are unsure how to do it.. the procedures.. a site informing them is a) not fraud and b) is a good thing.. any government should be giving their populace info on that at this time with the covid situation...

Biden has faults.. one of them is he isn't always very clear in his speech.. Trump is worse and often directly contradicts himself.. remember the bleach and so many more.. But yes Biden isn't always clear.. that whole wadge there isn't clear.. He could be referring to fighting Trump's attempts at fraud re voting. I say this because he then goes on to say that... Specifically that Trump is threatening to have votes not counted.. Trump as you may remember threatened to have the mail guys strike or 'lose' votes by delaying them.. perhaps he DID do that.. so YES it's perfectly natural and ANTI fraud to seek to take steps to prevent that with information to people AND a system where people can check that their vote WAS safely received.. this is NOT fraud.. I am afraid you misunderstand if you believe otherwise.. IF people's legitimate postal votes were destroyed or not received.. then that IS fraud and lawyers should be available to investigate as that is tampering with the election ...and destroys the whole point of the election.. to represent the will of the people..

pianoplayingsteve · 31-35, M

@Adaydreambeliever you can say whatever you like to try to justify the fact that you cant even watch just 3 minutes of something that challenges your beliefs. You could have watched it in the time it took you to reply to me. If you cant even watch 3 minutes then i dont see how you've 'looked into this'. And I'm not asking you to watch every debate, this is merely 3 minutes

Adaydreambeliever · 56-60, F

@pianoplayingsteve You don't understand English well do you? Did you not see I POSTED and then analysed exactly what he said.. but you are still bleating about my not having watched 3 mins.. I DID LISTEN... (see further.. ) I think you dont even care if I did or didn't listen... (PS it's listen not look as it' was an audio clip I saw!) I did, as I say listen.. but heard nothing that seemed to indicate what you claimed.. I even wondered if I were listening to something else because it didn;t make sense in the context of what you were claiming... The comment about lack of time was.. in respect of following up.. and trying to listen again.. and I didn't have the time or energy to look through it again.. it's boring.. it served no purpose and when you think of the pay off.. what was in it for me balanced against the fact that I have very little time on here so have to use it wisely.. I almost never get bogged down in debates on this site.. a) because I don't have time.. you may have nothing better to do but I am afraid I literally have 1-2 hours a night I can be here so I have to use that wisely.. and b) because I've found that debating with Trump supporters is usually a pointless exercise.. they get confused when presented with facts and start insulting..

So, as we know... the listening didn't reveal anything to support your claim.. I went further, (I cannot promise I could do the same another time as I just don't have time..(but on a Friday evening I have to stay up later to order groceries online) so you were in luck... read aforementioned comments) and as the listening didn't reveal anything to support your claim, I dug out the transcript.. IF you had read what I wrote, (lol perhaps that's too much effort for you.. perhaps it's YOU who doesn't like to be informed!!) this isn't a case of me saying whatever I want.. THOSE ARE THE FACTS.. I have printed off the transcript. (Trump is worse, far worse!) and it just doesn't say what you claim it said...

I don't have any beliefs.. you are falling into the same trap as Trump supporters often do.. this doesn't really affect me.. I am very well informed comparitively.. and we none of us can listen to everything.. you included.. be logical as it discredits you..

Bed time for me.. I usually offer to take this PM.. but in your case you may have forgotten we talked privately for a while..

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