Asking
Only logged in members can reply and interact with the post.
Join SimilarWorlds for FREE »

Gnosticism?

Poll - Total Votes: 12
Yes. And I am a Gnostic Christian.
No. But I haven't ruled out the validity of Gnosticism.
No. And I think Gnosticism is heresy.
I've never heard of Gnosticism.
I follow another religion.
Show Results
You can only vote on one answer.
Is there any Gnostic Christians out there? (I'm asking because... "...because enquiring minds want to know!")
Prisoner1972 · 51-55, MVIP
I saw that course on gnosticism and it opened up a lot of questions. The possibility that there is an imperfect and possibly somewhat malicious God in control of this world better answers the question of why we live in an imperfect world. And the premise that to know yourself is to know the Supreme God, also known as "The Invisible Virgin Spirit." But when Gnosticism requires us to make a commitment to Gnosticism forever without committing to another religion, otherwise face Eternal damnation is where I draw the line. Similar religions require the same commitment. I'm Catholic. I can study and live a good life iaw what other religions say. And those other religions say i have a chance by following my own religion. But if I switch religions, even with Catholicism, that's the worse thing i can do. So switching to anything else is unthinkable.

But still I find the study of other religions to be truly fascinating. Because "Enquiring minds want to know!"
pdxlinux · 41-45, M
@Prisoner1972 thanks but i did not understand why you tagged me
Prisoner1972 · 51-55, MVIP
@pdxlinux sorry about that. I meant to reply to the group as a whole. I removed you.
Prisoner1972 · 51-55, MVIP
One more thing that I wanted to mention. I try to look at religions, not from a historical perspective, but from a mythic perspective. We won't be able to get anything out of religion if we're constantly asking the questions like "Is the Holy Bible historically accurate?" Or "Did Muhammad really get visited by Allah while in the cave when he wrote down the Quran?" Because to commit to such a view would mean that you believe in the negation of all other religions. But if you cease to ask, "Is the myth really true?" and begin to ask, "What truths can be found in the myth?" (Or: What is the moral of the story?") If this line of thinking is applied, then The Parables of Jesus Christ can make sense to muslims. The teachings of Muhammad can make sense to Christians. And Believers of opposing religions can build an understanding among themselves. This makes it easier to "...Love thy neighbor as thyself." Those are the words of Jesus. And I heard Muhammad gave instructions to Muslims to get along with Christians, Jews, and Sabians.
pdxlinux · 41-45, M
@Prisoner1972 joseph campbell would agree. the importance of hollywood films, and mythic figures in our popular culture, are related to your statement.
@Prisoner1972 apologies for being pedantic, but I believe the claim is Mohammed was visited by the angel Gabriel not Allah
Prisoner1972 · 51-55, MVIP
@Activitykittens thank you for setting me straight. I stand corrected.
This comment is hidden. Show Comment
pdxlinux · 41-45, M
@GrinNude bookmarked thx. there was a jewish scholar named Hugh J. Schonfeld. he wrote a book called "those magnificent xtians" and it included information that you are talking about. the early xtians who walked with Yeshua had sex orgies in their churches. it was direct obedience to Yeshua's commandment to love.
GrinNude · 61-69, C
@pdxlinux From reading the Gospel of Philip and the Gospel of Thomas, I believe that some form of sacred or transcendent sexuality was practiced by the Gnostics in the Sacrament of the Bridal Chamber.
Prisoner1972 · 51-55, MVIP
I watched a course on Gnosticism on Great Courses, taught by Dr David Brakke. Dr Brakke also wrote:
The Gnostics: Myth, Ritual, and Diversity in Early Christianity https://a.co/d/7EnK8Yp
pdxlinux · 41-45, M
i like the gospel of thomas
helenS · 36-40, F
@pdxlinux Which one? There are two, the "Infancy Gospel of Thomas", and the semi-gnostic "Gospel of Thomas".
pdxlinux · 41-45, M
@helenS i think semi gnostic. it was found in nag hammadi i think. any way, even though i like it, it does not mean that i find everything relevant to life & humanity in the 20th and 21st centuries. if you care to discuss further i am open to direct messages.
helenS · 36-40, F
@pdxlinux Thank you – yes it's something that touches me deeply.
SW-User
Read Pagels Gnostic Gospels and form your own judgement. She writes succinctly.
helenS · 36-40, F
I clicked "Yes" although it's not entirely true. I find the idea of salvation through knowledge extremely interesting and modern (oh yes!), and I also often feel like we are prisoners in this world, that we are not really a part of this world.
JPWhoo · 36-40, MVIP
I think Gnostic Christians mostly went extinct, because Pauline Christianity was the brand that ultimately won dominance.
Prisoner1972 · 51-55, MVIP
@JPWhoo please tell me you answered the poll. Thanks!
JPWhoo · 36-40, MVIP
@Prisoner1972 Just did.
helenS · 36-40, F
@JPWhoo Gnostic movements in the middle ages were murdered by "Pauline" Christians. A genocide.
Bart D Erhman has a few thoughts too. Less reliable than Pagels. Good on other early Christian sects which perished.
helenS · 36-40, F
@sunriselover I've read his book "Lost Christianities", where he discusses major Christian apocrypha. He rejects the mythicist theory that Jesus is an entirely fictitious being.
@helenS Both Erhman and Pagels had bad evangelical experiences, so they have axes to grind. Pagels is more objective.
DrWatson · 70-79, M
I am Christian.

I am not Gnostic.

But I don't throw around the H - word lightly.

So none of your poll options fit me.
4meAndyou · F
I have heard of the Gnostics, and was very interested in the little bit that I read.
Prisoner1972 · 51-55, MVIP
@DrWatson It's good to hear you walk by faith and not by sight. So you should have answered the third option. Keep the the faith if you want to. Choose another if you don't. But when i put a poll out there, choose one of the given answers. Or not at all.
Elaine Pagels seems to know a lot about them. Nobody else does.

 
Post Comment