Random
Only logged in members can reply and interact with the post.
Join SimilarWorlds for FREE »

Trump and the $5k

1. This is illegal
2. Where will the money come from?
3. Not just the expense of $5k for 270m adults but also the administration of it.
4. This is stupid.

But hey it will win him the mid terms
Congratulations USA
Top | New | Old
NerdyPotato · Best Comment
5. His supporters better not accept that cheque if he actually supplies it, because receiving money from the government is socialism, which they're terrified of.
faery · F
@NerdyPotato Good thing I'm into socialism, however it's never coming, which is fine... never asked for it

samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
Arent we great?
BabyLonia · F
@samueltyler2 greatly in debt
It will never happen, just like the previous 2 cheques he promised. Belle of the Ranch summarized it perfectly: "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool you three times, you're definitely wearing a red hat."
Nevertooold · 56-60, M
It's really getting bad...I paid over $5 for a loaf of Butternet bread yesterday. at a local Jewel!!!.....
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@Nevertooold i cannot remember when I last drove by a gas, aka petrol, station offering a gallon for lexx then $4.00 USD. I drove by in my EV.
FloorGenAdm · 51-55, M
The money is starting to get back to the people it came from...I'm not complaining.
FloorGenAdm · 51-55, M
@samueltyler2 Don't they spend a crapload on dumb stuff all the time. Money would come from the same place.
FloorGenAdm · 51-55, M
@samueltyler2 You gotta start somewhere don't ya?
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@FloorGenAdm who is they? What you, or i might call dumb stuff may be important to some one. There is already billions of dollars already returned to states. Unfortunately a lot of those tax payer dollars go disproportionately to all states. Many states receive more federal funds then they send when compared to others. We are already spending more on interest on federal debt that any other function.
Pretzel · 70-79, M
And we have a massive national debt
@pdockal says
Your not able to produce your own words
FALSE!!!

I produced my own words (copied below), and I produced data describing tax cuts and national debt. If you think you have better data, please show it!!

The US national debt doubled from $20 trillion to $40 trillion over the last ten years. Remind me, who has been president for the majority of those ten years?? And who has passed massive tax cuts without spending cuts in each of his terms???

tRump's own fiscal policies led to at least $12 trillion of that $20 trillion debt growth over ten years.
pdockal · 56-60, M
@ElwoodBlues

A meeme aren't your own words you *****

I never said the debt ceiling isn't rising since Clinton
However you need to calculate the debt in terms of the dollar today
Congress controls the purse
Under obama Congress was controlled by his party and the debt was still raised
pdockal · 56-60, M
@newjaninev2

Do we owe you anything ?
Do we owe your country anything ?
Don't you think we the people do what is im or power to reduce the debt or do you think everybody is like you ..... complain about things you have no knowledge of

legally speaking, the New Zealand Parliament can change or remove individual rights more easily than in countries like the United States

I wouldn't trade my rights/constitution under any circumstances

Maybe you should look to create a NZ constitution but that's only my opinion and you do you & I'll do me until you por your nose where it doesn't belong
Convivial · 26-30, F
To answer point 2, your pocket....
GeistInTheMachine · 31-35, M
IF there were actually a verifiable system in place by which he actually had to pay me $5,000 to vote Republican with proof of my vote, I would. But since this is just one of his new promises, it's worth far less than a damn.

I don't see why he doesn't have Musk rig it or just cancel the midterms outright if he cares that much. I think he's just being lazy.
faery · F
1. Not technically, he's been legally advised
2. Taxpayers, it's already our money
3. Right
4. Yep!

It won't win him the midterms. No one believes he'll do it
This comment is hidden. Show Comment
@faery I'm not sure he ran it past his legal team or whether it was a spur of the moment promise tbh, nor if he would have dropped the plan if they advised against it.

And sadly plenty of people would believe it, but only those who would have voted for him no matter what, so it won't change the election outcome indeed.
faery · F
@NerdyPotato I read up on it and it's considered legal. He definitely got the go ahead

Donald Trump's promise is widely considered legal under the First Amendment, despite intense debate. Legal experts state that while the pledge resembles a vote-buying scheme, it is legally classified as a constitutionally protected campaign promise rather than criminal bribery.

even though it's totally bribery.

A portion of 30% of voters will believe his promise. So you're right, it won't be enough to change the outcome.
The nation would have a responsibility to protect its people from poverty and even inflation, if they weren't a fake, fascistic non legitimate project. The mainstream majority hates the legitimate nations and seeks to kill each one,- Iran, China and Russia, even Venezuela,! Hate drives the US.
Trump has been promising cheques (that have never been in the mail) since 2016.

And he doesn’t even pay his own bills. Ask half the people who’ve worked for him. 🙄
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@bijouxbroussard Never trust a serial bankrupt.
@SunshineGirl Exactly. 😄
Nevertooold · 56-60, M
It had better NOT!!!!! NMT!!!
This comment is hidden. Show Comment
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@pdockal Under US Federal law it is illegal to offer payments intended to influence the way a person is voting. If he had promised to reduce taxes that would count as a regular election promise. The unknown source or purpose of the "dividend" is what is leading many commentators to conclude that it is an illegal bribe.
This comment is hidden. Show Comment
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@pdockal You asked a question. I answered a question. You don't like the answer but instead of providing a counter-argument you start shouting. I'm not sure you understand how social media works.
Waveney · M
Oh it won't win him the midterms. And besides, even if Republicans somehow retain the House, which might then count as a "win", who's to say what Trump's definition is?
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@Elessar tell that to those who never received the tariff refunds or the DOSH money. Tell it to the workers he stiff throughout his career!
ArishMell · 70-79, M
This was reported on the News "Over Here", including the total bill, but I'm not clear what this promised money is for. Though the reports did say the sources of the money are not defined.

Surely not as an attempt at buying votes, which I cannot believe would be at all legal.

In any case, if a genuine ballot how would the President know how individuals will vote, or afterwards did vote?

One is puzzled....
@ArishMell I think the promise was that every adult gets 5k, so how any individual voted doesn't matter. It only depends on the GOP winning, not on whether you contributed to that win.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@NerdyPotato Thankyou for explaining it. A strange promise to make though.
@ArishMell yep, but it's only intended for the most gullible people, so they didn't need to put a lot of thought into it.
HikingMan · 56-60, M
It's another false promise that is a bold-faced lie as he attempts to buy votes for midterms.
People will still believe him even as they're all still waiting for gas and groceries to get cheaper, and the DOGE checks.
FeetAreFantastic · 46-50, MVIP
Its also just a blatant lie, like he lies about everything.

 
Post Comment