What do you think of the Trump administration ignoring the Fifth Amendment when it comes to immigrants?

@MasterLee

Of course it does, it literally states "No person," and "Any person." So by law, which is what The US Constitution is, "person" includes all human beings on American soil.

@calicuz they didn't respect the law coming in

@MasterLee

It's not against the law to enter this country.

@calicuz it is if you do not have legal permission

@MasterLee

No one needs legal permission to enter, only legal permission to stay. The only thing immigrants fail to do at the Southern Boarder is obtain a Visa, and that can be easily resolved without involving the US Military.

@calicuz perhaps you are unaware of visas and other requirements

@MasterLee

Yes, I already mentioned that.

@calicuz legal permission is required

@MasterLee

Legal permission to enter, yes, but legal permission to stay once "anyone" is here. This is why we have a justice system, to clarify law versus opinion.
Once again, no American would oppose placing "vetting stations" at the Southern border, manned by military personnel. I mean, the border does belong to The Federal Government. So why do we have American Troops combating unarmed American citizens?

@calicuz we don't

@calicuz If you don't need permission to enter, why do we have immigration laws, why do you get stopped on the border coming and going? A visa is for a specific purpose, a work visa for example. Or a student visa to attend college. If it is so easy to get a visa or to immigrate without the military getting involved, why do immigrants pay coyotes $1000s to smuggle them across the border bypassing the immigration process?

@Roadsterrider

Whoa, whoa, whoa, let's stay on topic.
The topic is the Fifth Amendment and the rights of "anyone," as stated in The Constitution, to due process, and a fair trial.

@Roadsterrider People saying you dont .. are lying

@calicuz They passed up an opportunity for due process by illegally entering the country, those who came across at a check point passed up an opportunity for due process when they failed to show up for their hearing date. Breaking the law, ignoring the requirements of the law. now they are experiencing the consequences of their actions.

@calicuz
Leftists and their pretzel logic...it's not illegal to enter, but it is illegal to stay...if they enter with the intention of avoiding detection and NOT following US immigration policy, then they have already signalled their intent to commit a crime. It becomes a crime when they decide to stay without permission.

@calicuz I need a Visa to enter the USA as per USA government law

@OriginalNedKelly There are some differences for travelers from Visa Waiver Program (VWP) countries. They must apply for an Electronic System for Travel Authorization (ESTA) and have an e-Passport before arrival, while also being prepared for U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) at the port of entry. Visitors will complete a CBP Declaration Form 6059B at the port of entry, and some may be enrolled in the US-VISIT program for digital photographs and fingerprints. Visitors must also declare any cash over $10,000 and be prepared to be questioned by CBP officers about their visit.

@OriginalNedKelly

Yes, but if you came in without a Visa, you are guaranteed a hearing before an Immigration Judge to determine if you should be sent back to your country of origin.
I know it's hard for many to believe, but literally thousands of Americans are falsely accused of crimes they didn't commit every year. Our justice system isn't in place to convict guilty people, it's in place to exonerate the innocent.

@calicuz If they entered through a port of entry, they received a visa or a notice to appear or both. A visa may be renewed or changed. Going from a student visa to a work visa, or for a longer term of the time allowed. If they don't show up for their court date or they don't bother to renew their visa, they are subject to being returned to their country of origin. As far as the justice system, it seems that the system is in place and the emphasis is on determining guilt before executing punishment.

@Roadsterrider

Yes, when following "the law," nothing is swift, and as to your last statement, it can appear that way from the outside looking in.

@calicuz Fortunately for me, I have never been on the inside looking out. I follow the law.