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Donald Trump guilty or innocent.

Donald Trump is the most investigated person in the history of the world. They have investigated everything about him. They have investigated his businesses they have investigated his personal life they have investigated his finances. And the best that they can come up with is an NDA that was signed for from an affair that happened over 18 years ago. So think about this if they investigated you if they investigated Hillary Clinton Bill Clinton Barack Obama Joe Biden George Bush Nancy pelosi anybody as much as they have invested in Donald Trump. And he had actually done something wrong he would be charged for a real crime. I mean we could just think Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton you know there's a lot of suspicious deaths there's a lot of weird money that got sent to the Clinton foundation none of that's ever been investigated. You got Joe Biden and all the links that have come out linking him to his son's businesses checking account that he shared with his son that received money from the businesses not even counting the fact that numerous people have said that job was the big guy. Barack Obama took 18,000 boxes of papers from the White House when he left none of those have been looked at. I'm sorry to me it looks like Trump's pretty much innocent almost things and I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt since they haven't found anything legitimate to ever charge him with.
AbbySvenz · F
Trump said, “President Barack Hussein Obama kept 33 million pages of documents, much of them classified. How many of them pertained to nuclear? Word is, lots!”

Trump is wrong. News reports starting in 2016 showed that the National Archives and Records Administration would oversee transfer of Obama’s presidential records. The agency announced it would digitize the records and that classified records were sent to a facility in College Park, Maryland.

Obama does not have them.
https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2022/why-trump-is-wrong-to-suggest-obama-personally-kept-33-million-pages-of-documents/
dale74 · M
@AbbySvenz Obama does have copies they're in his library Trump kept copies all original documentation is kept at the dod on servers thank you Obama for signing the executive digital archives storage facility. Every paper that the president gets there's a copy kept at the department of defense doesn't matter what it is. So when the national archives says Trump took stuff and we don't have copies it's a lie.
AbbySvenz · F
Maybe read the article linked that has the actual facts of the situation, instead of regurgitating “Faux News” talking points @dale74

https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2022/why-trump-is-wrong-to-suggest-obama-personally-kept-33-million-pages-of-documents/
LordShadowfire · 46-50, M
@AbbySvenz Who are you kidding? @dale74 doesn't read anything his Russian Masters don't want him to.
TexChik · F
Innocent and railroaded
dale74 · M
Most of y'all have never heard of psychological warfare. You go to an area and every day you tell those people that so and so is bad so and so is corrupt so and so is crooked and you do that over and over and over again for a year the people start to believe it they've been telling you this about Donald Trump for 7 years now actually probably 8 years before that Donald Trump was one of the nicest guys in the world every politician love being next to him there's pictures of him with Hillary there's pictures of him with Bill Clinton there's pictures of him with Jesse Jackson all types of people who have run for president. But the second he throws his name in the rain all of a sudden it doesn't matter what he's done they're going to accuse him of everything bad. And because New York is a very Democrat stronghold especially the city they've been hearing Donald Trump's horrible for the last seven years they all believe it now he's never going to get a innocent verdict in New York they're going to make him guilty before he even walked in the courtroom before they've even looked at the evidence he's guilty that's not a fair trial. And if you've been watching MSNBC and CNN for the last 8 years then you're going to believe he's guilty of something too and the judges directions to the jury where if you think he's guilty of anything you got to find him guilty you don't have to agree on what the crime was.
SeaGlass · F
That's not the only thing they found. That's one of two things he's been convicted of thus far. Stay tuned and try not to invest your life in a person who'd gladly let you go to prison for his deeds
Iwillwait · M
See the pattern? It's undeniably there. I'm not a "Donad Trump," voter or supporter but what's wrong is wrong and what's right is right. The Far Left is blatanly wrong and overstepped in so many ways.
dale74 · M
First of all those are accusations all an indictment is an accusation
AbbySvenz · F
And he had actually done something wrong he would be charged for a real crime.
https://www.manhattanda.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/Donald-J.-Trump-Indictment.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/storage/US_v_Trump_23_cr_257.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/storage/US-v-Trump-Nauta-De-Oliveira-23-80101.pdf

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/georgia-indictment-trump/daed97d37562a76f/full.pdf
@AbbySvenz They're all false charges on nonexistent crimes.
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@AbbySvenz alternate facts
AbbySvenz · F
Okay, Kellyanne @JonLosAngeles66
DocSavage · M
Last case was a civil charge , he was found guilty of rape. Doesn’t help his image
dale74 · M
@Theyitis go back and watch the Anderson Cooper video where she admits that rape is sexy and it never actually happened he never physically assaulted her said in her own words.
DocSavage · M
@SamInAZ
And your source for this is ? Fox News or Trump himself.
You’re so convinced everyone is a liar, why do you believe a convicted one ?
Theyitis · 36-40, M
@dale74 Seems like motivated reasoning to me, you’re just grasping at anything that suggests Trump’s innocent. He was found guilty in a court of law, and I’m sure the defense would have used Anderson Cooper’s video if they thought it would help. The courts don’t always get it right, but in this case I don’t see any reason not to trust them.
He's 0 for 3 so far. He's been found guilty/liable on everything so far.

Sexual Assault and Defamation Lawsuit - liable
Business Fraud Lawsuit - Liable
Falsification of business records - Guilty of 34 Felony Counts

The next three felony trials are considered to be more of a slam dunk and are much more serious charges. He should be seeing jail time.
SamInAZ · 41-45, M
@JonLosAngeles66 if he doesn't win. Maybe.
dale74 · M
@JonLosAngeles66 all I got to stay is you might want to stock up on your Kleenex for crying cuz they're going to be a shortage of it I'm already buying stock in Kimberly-Clark
@dale74 it is what it is. How I feel about it is irrelevant.
Elessar · 26-30, M
Lock her up!.. Ah no
AbbySvenz · F
He never said that. “They” did!@Elessar
Elessar · 26-30, M
@AbbySvenz Like those "antifa" that became temporarily "profa" on Jan 6th 2021!
DocSavage · M
@AbbySvenz
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That’s not Charlie McCarthy
Zaphod42 · 51-55, M
Ah, the newsmax propaganda mill at work 🤣
Ynotisay · M
Innocent people don't tend to get investigated dude. His businesses have faced 4 THOUSAND lawsuits. Why would you think that is.
I didn't even read anything you wrote other than the first line. I'm just always so curious why people like you give up ANY self-respect. I don't see the upside.
deadgerbil · 26-30
Very compelling
Guilty. Next question.
It's because Trump, a former associate of the dems, knows ALL of their secrets, which makes him a threat to the establishment, so they went on the offensive to make up smears against him to deflect off their own sins.
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dale74 · M
@jshm2 not true Hillary Clinton wasn't fully investigated Nixon was only investigated about the tapes about 8 months worth of investigation Trump's been investigated for the entire 7 years and since you bring up Nixon if Nixon was guilty of spying on the Democrats during the political season shouldn't Obama be rotten in prison too because he kind of spied on Trump using the NSA the CIA and the FBI
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