@Roundandroundwego he just stated it goes unreported.

@22Michelle The bible gets a bad rap. An eye for an eye is biblical, but a move toward civil civilization when you realize the standard at the time was a life for an eye. Turning the other cheek and loving one's enemies is a high standard even today. You will not see this in Islam, where they will befriend rainbow people for local protests knowing they will join their traditions of throwing them off tall buildings once they achieve their goals.

@ChipmunkErnie I think that raises an interesting point. Percentage don't tell the whole story. If 30 thousand people were harmed and you have a 33 percent reduction, that still leaves a fairly large number. To have a valid concern about being included in that statistic is not unreasonable to way of thinking.

@GerOttman But it also means things have gotten better for that 33% who would have been harmed BEFORE the decrease. The perceived increase in crime is what drives politics, it seems. As with the putting of the National Guard into the NY subway system -- even the governor who sent them in admitted that there was no actual crime problem in the subways, that it was all for the perception in the media and public eye.

@FreddieUK Incidentally, your own statistic of 'one hundred being stabbed at the tube station' is, I assume, made up for the purpose of your rhetoric rather than based on evidence?


any chance you could read that just one more time...? (sigh)

@GerOttman You can ask questions, but I suspect you are not interested in the answers. You are using Nigel Farage's tactic of asking vague, open ended questions in the hope of sowing social unease and reinforcing blind prejudice. I am interested in establishing objective truth. Of course not everything that government says must be accepted uncritically. But based on objective evidence, the current UK administration is a far more credible source than Farage Plc.

@SunshineGirl I don’t know who that is but I don't trust the government when they tell me what I want to hear. I also place little trust in those who blindly accept the "truth" of the day. Funny how whenever something bad happens there's always a statistic to show everything is fine. Well except for the poor unfortunate victim of the day.

@samueltyler2 There is definately less civility online and political civility. That may not translate to violent crime.

@JimboSaturn it hasn't so far, the annual FBI statistics always lagging behind but :


https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/fbi-data-confirms-drop-most-crimes-2023-especially-murders

U.S. crime rate per 100K population for 2021 was 6.81, a 6.02% increase from 2020.
U.S. crime rate per 100K population for 2020 was 6.42, a 28.78% increase from 2019.
U.S. crime rate per 100K population for 2019 was 4.99, a 1.14% increase from 2018.
U.S. crime rate per 100K population for 2018 was 4.93, a 5.99% decline from 2017.
Intentional homicides are estimates of unlawful homicides purposely inflicted as a result of domestic disputes, interpersonal violence, violent conflicts over land resources, intergang violence over turf or control, and predatory violence and killing by armed groups. Intentional homicide does not include all intentional killing; the difference is usually in the organization of the killing. Individuals or small groups usually commit homicide, whereas killing in armed conflict is usually committed by fairly cohesive groups of up to several hundred members and is thus usually excluded. The full historical dataset is available for download here: U.S. Crime Rate & Statistics | Historical Data | 1990 - 2021.

@RosaMarie Hey don't bring facts! We want the homicide rate to increase all the time; without increasing violence why would we want FearlessLeader to protect us?

Someone else mentioned it, but the myth of increasing violence is being used to justify a federal presence in cities where people disagree with the government.

@RosaMarie I think what is happening in the US under Trump is disgusting. Sending armed forces into cities using crime or antisemitism as excuses is an abomination. that is far different from what I am speaking of. BTW, blame it on whatever you want, minor crimes, shoplifting for example, seem to have increased.

@GerOttman They use it to inflame the fearful to support them.

@anythingoes477 alright buddy, slow down, breathe slowly try using a paper bag! take it easy it's going to be alright...

(Marsha, get the crash cart! We got another one..)

@JimboSaturn self labeled responses are always appreciated

@samueltyler2 ok let's see the receipts

Bagged again

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@Thrust what are you babbling about now? receipts?

why do you insist on diversion, you know damn well that the statistics show the decrease in major crime!

@Roundandroundwego its inevitable.
And don’t speak for me calling it how I see it.. thank you very much

@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout yes, violence is inevitable. For everyone desperately clinging to it. It's a Western mindset thing. The less violence in humanity the more exceptional you seem.b

@Roundandroundwego western mindset? You must have missed all the ragheads blowing up buildings and beheading people.
And Japan didnt engage in warfare

@samueltyler2

Yeah MAGA killed Charlie Kirk. And has invaded every college campus

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@Thrust stop babbling!