Would there even be a USA without the guns?
Someone stood their ground against the Indians and they used guns.
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Graylight · 51-55, F
The Indians used guns, too, and had been in some cases since the 16th century. During the Revolutionary War, an estimated 13% of all colonists even owned a firearm, and many of them were ancient and defunct heirlooms. During the late 19th century, American Indians were allowed to purchase and carry firearms, just as white men were.
What the US Army had in its favor was duplicity, a callousness for human life and larger artillery provided by the US forces. Even in the most skilled hands, a long gun isn't a match for a Gatling gun.
sources:
[i]https://www.revolutionarywarjournal.com/contrary-to-myth-most-americans-did-not-own-guns-at-the-start-of-the-american-revolution/#:~:text=Most%20colonials%2C%20as%20research%20has,musket%20prior%20to%20the%20war.
https://www.shear.org/2016/12/27/firearms-and-the-violent-transformation-of-native-america/#:~:text=Guns%20grew%20so%20essential%20to,man%20could%20accomplish%20in%20battle.[/i]
What the US Army had in its favor was duplicity, a callousness for human life and larger artillery provided by the US forces. Even in the most skilled hands, a long gun isn't a match for a Gatling gun.
sources:
[i]https://www.revolutionarywarjournal.com/contrary-to-myth-most-americans-did-not-own-guns-at-the-start-of-the-american-revolution/#:~:text=Most%20colonials%2C%20as%20research%20has,musket%20prior%20to%20the%20war.
https://www.shear.org/2016/12/27/firearms-and-the-violent-transformation-of-native-america/#:~:text=Guns%20grew%20so%20essential%20to,man%20could%20accomplish%20in%20battle.[/i]
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Graylight · 51-55, F
@reinhardX And from whom did the aboriginals take the land?
[quote]The indigenous people hadn’t always been there, nor had they originated there, as some of their traditions state, but they had occupied these American lands for at least 20,000 years.
Craig Childs, [i]Atlas Of A Lost World[/i] [/quote]
Ancient civilizations came from Beringia, an area local to Siberia, a separate continent. Today, the emerging theory is that the people up in the Bluefish Caves some 24,000 years ago were the founders, and that they represent a culture that was isolated for thousands of years up in the cold north, incubating a population that would eventually seed everywhere else. This idea has become known as Beringian Standstill. Those founders had split from known populations in Siberian Asia some 40,000 years ago, come across Beringia, and stayed put until around 16,000 years ago.
Analysis of the genomes of indigenous people show 15 founding mitochondrial types not found in Asia. The Norse came in the 10th century. When Columbus finally stumbled into an areas near the Americas 14 centuries later, there were 600 separate and distinct Aboriginal groups. More tribes still lived out West undiscovered.
Yes, other peoples were here. Yes, nearly ever group or culture in the world has emigrated to some extent. But to think there was one peaceful unified group whom the "white man" cheated over a couple bad deals is to simplify the topic beyond debate.
Land was stolen. In other areas, peaceful treaties were broken on both parts. In others still, natives attacked without settlers even knowing of their presence. The history of this nation is anything but honorable and bloodless, but none one bit of it is black and white.
[quote]The indigenous people hadn’t always been there, nor had they originated there, as some of their traditions state, but they had occupied these American lands for at least 20,000 years.
Craig Childs, [i]Atlas Of A Lost World[/i] [/quote]
Ancient civilizations came from Beringia, an area local to Siberia, a separate continent. Today, the emerging theory is that the people up in the Bluefish Caves some 24,000 years ago were the founders, and that they represent a culture that was isolated for thousands of years up in the cold north, incubating a population that would eventually seed everywhere else. This idea has become known as Beringian Standstill. Those founders had split from known populations in Siberian Asia some 40,000 years ago, come across Beringia, and stayed put until around 16,000 years ago.
Analysis of the genomes of indigenous people show 15 founding mitochondrial types not found in Asia. The Norse came in the 10th century. When Columbus finally stumbled into an areas near the Americas 14 centuries later, there were 600 separate and distinct Aboriginal groups. More tribes still lived out West undiscovered.
Yes, other peoples were here. Yes, nearly ever group or culture in the world has emigrated to some extent. But to think there was one peaceful unified group whom the "white man" cheated over a couple bad deals is to simplify the topic beyond debate.
Land was stolen. In other areas, peaceful treaties were broken on both parts. In others still, natives attacked without settlers even knowing of their presence. The history of this nation is anything but honorable and bloodless, but none one bit of it is black and white.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@reinhardX You think the Mexicans has slingshots? The indians rode bareback shooting arrows?
I'm curious, from which eminent nation do you hail? One with no history of oppression, imperialism or land wars, I assume. One that uses no firepower, I gather, because otherwise you're blowing more hot air than a desert evening in August.
I'm curious, from which eminent nation do you hail? One with no history of oppression, imperialism or land wars, I assume. One that uses no firepower, I gather, because otherwise you're blowing more hot air than a desert evening in August.
AngelJade · 22-25, F
I can't say there ever would be, as Gun Trafficking used to be #2 in the USA but now is #3 not because it is less popular but because human trafficking has become more common.
Even if all guns were outlawed there would still be millions trafficked in, if the USA can't even keep illegals out, illegal drugs out, they have no way to keep illegal guns out.
In rural America where I grew up, Deputies are up to 2 hours away to respond to a 911 call...what is people suppose to do without any way to protect themselves while waiting.
Even if all guns were outlawed there would still be millions trafficked in, if the USA can't even keep illegals out, illegal drugs out, they have no way to keep illegal guns out.
In rural America where I grew up, Deputies are up to 2 hours away to respond to a 911 call...what is people suppose to do without any way to protect themselves while waiting.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Peaceandnamaste · 26-30, F
We need gun control and gun laws but Republicans only care about their guns more than the lives of their children.