Would there even be a USA without the guns?
Someone stood their ground against the Indians and they used guns.
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Roundandroundwego · 61-69
@reinhardX everyone expects you to kill the entire human race with no choice. You'll be looking blank and never really even ask What? Before killing the last thing. God Bless America.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@reinhardX Yes, and? The question the original post asks is still relevant and worthy of investigation.
And while the white man came in an certainly claimed the land for himself, don't think for a moment the natives didn't begin wars, stage ambushes and invade settlements, killing women and children along the way. In warfare, there's no good guy.
And while the white man came in an certainly claimed the land for himself, don't think for a moment the natives didn't begin wars, stage ambushes and invade settlements, killing women and children along the way. In warfare, there's no good guy.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@reinhardX And from whom did the aboriginals take the land?
[quote]The indigenous people hadn’t always been there, nor had they originated there, as some of their traditions state, but they had occupied these American lands for at least 20,000 years.
Craig Childs, [i]Atlas Of A Lost World[/i] [/quote]
Ancient civilizations came from Beringia, an area local to Siberia, a separate continent. Today, the emerging theory is that the people up in the Bluefish Caves some 24,000 years ago were the founders, and that they represent a culture that was isolated for thousands of years up in the cold north, incubating a population that would eventually seed everywhere else. This idea has become known as Beringian Standstill. Those founders had split from known populations in Siberian Asia some 40,000 years ago, come across Beringia, and stayed put until around 16,000 years ago.
Analysis of the genomes of indigenous people show 15 founding mitochondrial types not found in Asia. The Norse came in the 10th century. When Columbus finally stumbled into an areas near the Americas 14 centuries later, there were 600 separate and distinct Aboriginal groups. More tribes still lived out West undiscovered.
Yes, other peoples were here. Yes, nearly ever group or culture in the world has emigrated to some extent. But to think there was one peaceful unified group whom the "white man" cheated over a couple bad deals is to simplify the topic beyond debate.
Land was stolen. In other areas, peaceful treaties were broken on both parts. In others still, natives attacked without settlers even knowing of their presence. The history of this nation is anything but honorable and bloodless, but none one bit of it is black and white.
[quote]The indigenous people hadn’t always been there, nor had they originated there, as some of their traditions state, but they had occupied these American lands for at least 20,000 years.
Craig Childs, [i]Atlas Of A Lost World[/i] [/quote]
Ancient civilizations came from Beringia, an area local to Siberia, a separate continent. Today, the emerging theory is that the people up in the Bluefish Caves some 24,000 years ago were the founders, and that they represent a culture that was isolated for thousands of years up in the cold north, incubating a population that would eventually seed everywhere else. This idea has become known as Beringian Standstill. Those founders had split from known populations in Siberian Asia some 40,000 years ago, come across Beringia, and stayed put until around 16,000 years ago.
Analysis of the genomes of indigenous people show 15 founding mitochondrial types not found in Asia. The Norse came in the 10th century. When Columbus finally stumbled into an areas near the Americas 14 centuries later, there were 600 separate and distinct Aboriginal groups. More tribes still lived out West undiscovered.
Yes, other peoples were here. Yes, nearly ever group or culture in the world has emigrated to some extent. But to think there was one peaceful unified group whom the "white man" cheated over a couple bad deals is to simplify the topic beyond debate.
Land was stolen. In other areas, peaceful treaties were broken on both parts. In others still, natives attacked without settlers even knowing of their presence. The history of this nation is anything but honorable and bloodless, but none one bit of it is black and white.