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Americans and guns

I don't know anybody who owns A gun.
But I know a whole lot of people who own many.

What's it like in your country?
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
While I haven't used any guns in decades, yet I have known a few, that own guns. I do understand the necessity because I have lived in remote areas. Dangerous wild life does exist in those areas.

However, in urban areas the worst wildlife is mankind itself. The necessity in cities just isn't necessary for semi automatic weapons of any sort.

Now this latest case involved several issues that just are not being addressed.

1. This latest person most certainly had mental issues. There's no doubt what so ever that he shouldn't have had any type gun on two counts:
a. He had already threatened to shoot up a military base
b. He had put himself into a mental hospital because he was hearing voices.

2. This person was not just the average person. He was a gun instructor as well as a military reservist, therefore a gun expert on several counts.

3. The type of gun use wasn't a average gun, nor did it have the average capacity. It was a AR-15 style semi automatic with a extended clip. The last meaning the clip contained more than 30 rounds of ammo. Plus he was carrying a belt of such extended clips.

You have had any type of military training you would know that such AR-15 style guns can be easy modified to full automatic. Hence why he was carrying a extra belt of clips.

This was a instructor! He knew how to modify it. And it's not all that hard to do so.

Why the heck wasn't his house search for any weapons is totally beyond me, for any of the single reasons above! 🤷🏻‍♂️

The mental health issues had to have been known just by the military. That's where he likely reported it.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@robingoodfellow my previous cat was killed by a coyote. 😢

I've as well seen them dragging off small dogs.
@DeWayfarer I'm very sorry to hear that, I know they can be dangerous. They've made a big comeback in the wild around here. They're a concern to a lot of people.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@robingoodfellow they are ramped where I was. Some have small live stock like chickens. So it's a serious problem.
Blondily · F
USA
I have never owned a gun but know someone who does. He only uses them for target practice and that is very rare.
His dad had left him a collection of guns as they might be valuable some day.
HumanEarth · 56-60, F
@Blondily I have some riffles and a shotgun, they are well over 70 years old.

Been in the family since new and they get used often.

They are used for hunting and protection from wild animals on the farm
Where I am, pretty much everyone has plenty of guns....... yet, there is very little crime. Imagine that. LOL then again, where I am, people respect each other. Now, if you go twenty minutes down the road, you might get shot. whats the difference...... the folks down the road dont respect themselves or their neighbor.
I don't currently own guns. Even so I made a point of learning basic safety in regards to them and I find the history and mechanical engineering of them interesting.

I know some gun owners. And most gun owners here consider the American attitude toward firearms as completely insane.

One interesting thing about Canada though is you can own black powder artillery with a basic unrestricted license. The only restrictions is it can't be rifled or a breach loader. lol

And .50 rifles were easier to buy here than in some states.

Stuff like this has over time led me to believe the mentality and culture in the US is more of a problem than the category of weapons available.
@Montanaman Cool. Not trying to come at you but it is just more complicated than alot of the stuff floating around want you to think it is.


And I think regulation is only part of the equation.

I think the US right wing gun culture needs a major shift. Even most gun owners up here in Canada think American right wing gun culture is fucked up.

Guns have to stop being status symbols.
Montanaman · M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow They truly are a status symbol, glorifying machism. I know this to be true.
@Montanaman It is scary.

And on the left the gun culture there is not about machismo and more about actual defense but living in fear that the NRA crowd and the local sheriffs are ones step away from walking them to a shallow ditch is not exactly healthy either.
ChadJNSD · 31-35, M
I grew up with guns, most of the gifts I ever received were guns, from family. I was taught how to shoot basic rifle by 6 or 7. Bottom line is, we need more guns in the hands of the right people scattered all over the nation to avoid more incidents like just happened.
@ChadJNSD I remember you once posted you shoot feral cats for fun.
Renaci · 36-40
@ChadJNSD Since you have admitted to having mental issues maybe it would be better if you didn't have guns. 🤷‍♀️
ninalanyon · 61-69, T
I don't know if any of the people I know have guns. It's not something that comes up in conversation. You have to have permission from the police to buy, borrow, or inherit a gun of pretty much any kind except airguns of 4.5 mm or less calibre and paint ball guns. There are also restrictions on how many guns one can have. You can only have one for each type of shooting you do at a gun club for instance. To qualify for a reserve rifle you have to have competed in ten tournaments of which five must be open tournaments.

It's likely that a number of people in this little town have them because there is a gun club and there are elk not too far away that are hunted.

https://www.politiet.no/tjenester/vapen/lover-og-regler-om-vapen/#vaapen-som-krever-tillatelse-button
Ynotisay · M
Don't own a gun and won't own gun. Don't have the need to feel powerful through metal and don't live in fear. It's a pretty easy equation.
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
The ones to fear are those who own a lot of them that you don't know own any, imho. Almost invariably the mass shooter turns out to be a quiet, solitary, loner that nobody even suspected had guns.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@dancingtongue I would be suspect full of anyone now days.

This latest wasn't a terrorist, yet he was a gun instructor. Therefore wasn't a loner.
dancingtongue · 80-89, M
@DeWayfarer From the tally, he unfortunately knew his stuff about guns. 🥺
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@dancingtongue what do you expect from a gun instructor at was a active reservist? 🤷🏻‍♂️

It's sad, yet the reporting of such could have prevented him. Keep in mind this wasn't just a average person but a gun instructor with mental health issues.
FreeSpirit1 · 51-55, F
A hunting rifle my Dad gave me years ago, and a handgun.
Im in the USA and where I live not many people have handguns, but as a country....lots do.
Jonjdw · 46-50, M
My sons who live at home have many. I have no interest in them. No interest in the guns. Or motorcycles. Or playing video games. Just saying
Nitedoc · 51-55, M
@Jonjdw No problem. It's all about freedom of choice.
TBone · M
I have a few guns. Also have a LTC. Although now in Texas a LTC is no longer needed.
ChadJNSD · 31-35, M
@TBone Damn, down in Texas…imagine almost everyone has a gun rack on their car or open carry’s to McDonald’s. 🤣
TBone · M
@ChadJNSD yep, we’re back to a newer version of the old west out here!
DunningKruger · 61-69, M
Pretty scary, honestly.
Applepiedom · 56-60, M
I've got several
AnnMayonaise · 22-25, F
Im working on getting some. This country is so far gone and stupid now its guaranteed guns will be needed someday.
JesseInTX · 51-55, M
I own 3 handguns, 2 rifles and 2 shotguns
Dacrowman · 70-79, M
@JesseInTX how many hands you got 😳
JesseInTX · 51-55, M
@Dacrowman two. You probably don’t want to know, and I won’t tell how many mags and how many rounds I have for each of them
Dacrowman · 70-79, M
@JesseInTX you're right
Few people own guns. But weapons of war are bought and sold illegally by mafia groups.
I believe most gun owners have multiple firearms.
One thing the American mass media deliberately omits from their news is that nearly every single mass shooting takes place in areas restricting the possession of firearms, "No Guns Allowed" signs posted, giving shooters a heads up that they will most likely not have any resistance from an armed citizen stopping them. Second, the democrats actually have no real tangible desire to get rid of guns, they put their gun control bills through legislation knowing they'll be challenged in the courts, they just want a record of which elected officials vote which way so that they can get it on official record. They also salivate at the shootings because they use them their political advantage to get votes while they spew disinformation, dead people, specially kids, means campaign dollars and re-election.
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dancingtongue · 80-89, M
@HumanEarth So you weren't using any of the government built roads or services you were refusing to pay for?
Ynotisay · M
@HumanEarth Out of curiosity bud, what SPECIFIC right have you lost? Let me know but ya' gotta' be sure that it's a RIGHT, ok? Because none of those you mentioned were. So what right have you lost?
Ynotisay · M
@dancingtongue Yeah. Not contributing and then whining about having to contribute. Interesting.

 
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