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Penny · 46-50, F
idk, communism seems more like keeping everyone down to me and apparently the beginnings of socialism are theft. those people may be insanely wealthy but they got their money fairly. it wouldnt be right to just take it away.
Penny · 46-50, F
@22Michelle i have no idea who the robber barons are
22Michelle · 61-69, T
@Penny] @Penny Very easy to Google and research. They include people likeh Andrew Carnegie, John D Rockefeller, etc. Some of these having accumulated vast wealth using very dubious, in some cases criminal, business practices did give large sums to various charities. Carnegie's Gospel of Wealth belueved personal wealth carried a moral obligation, and he despised inherited wealth, believing it should be heavily taxed. Nowadays the term is being used for those in the Tech industries like Zuckerberg, Musk, Bezos, etc. It should be noted that most of these, whilst donating what appears to be large sums it is indeed a very small fraction of their wealth, and some of those donations benefit them personally.
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22Michelle · 61-69, T
The more I read posts on here / debate with people the more convinced I am that Americans have no idea what Communism, Socialism is. Personally I believe in pragmatism. Some things are best done by yourself. Some by private companies, for profit, and some by Government, for the public good. Any political system followed religiously falls apart after time.
22Michelle · 61-69, T
@RisingMorningStar7 Indeed they do. And a healthier, better educated population leads to a more productive workforce. For a country it's a good long term investment.
RisingMorningStar7 · 36-40, M
@22Michelle Yes... What you have in America do is that you tax the middle man and give onto the poor instead of taxing the rich.
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WillaKissing · 56-60, M
The old Soviet Union did not have an equality and the hirer up on the food chain you were the more you had. Sorry not buying this at all. One of the biggest caste systems I have ever seen.

Under Stalin millions more were killed than by Hitler and his fanatics, but when you are on the winning end of a long war no one challenges you when they only want peace.
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RisingMorningStar7 · 36-40, M
@22Michelle Well you're for a rude awaking, because America social media is censored. The reason why noone revolts in America is because they have food to eat, takes people food and they will revolt.
22Michelle · 61-69, T
@RisingMorningStar7 Where did I get into a revolt in the USA? As for social media censorship I see plenty of posts from the USA that are obviously not censored to my mind, but perhaps you can give some examples of the kind of posts that would be censored, how and by whom?
Also we're getting into a debate about what constitutes freedom? Most Europeans do not consider the USA to be especially free. You're giving provision of food as an example, but it appears food security is an issue.

https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/food-nutrition-assistance/food-security-in-the-us/key-statistics-graphics
Reason10 · 70-79, M
@RisingMorningStar7 Well you're for a rude awaking, because America social media is censored.

This forum is sort of an example of American social media. It is not censored. There are mainstream American capitalist conservatives (which make up most of America) like me. And there are far left Nazi Socialist liberals here, spewing hate and racism. None of that is censored. This place has more respect for the First Amendment than any other spot I can think of.
The entitlements that make social equality possible and likely are enumerated in the UN charter. They're a matter of law. Fascism in the USA is very denislist. You don't know nothing bout no socialism and no reason why it's your responsibility! You don't want that kind of future! War. Y'all love war!
@Reason10 I did not say anything about the USA being peaceful or civil or socialist. Gahead
Dying younger and living harder lives. No argument from me, that's a final solution to the fascism. Y'all gahead. Wars as really work for you and austerity m. Please finish this job and be over with.
Reason10 · 70-79, M
@Roundandroundwego @Roundandroundwego [c=003BB2]I did not say anything about the USA being peaceful or civil or socialist. Gahead
Dying younger and living harder lives
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Only in Socialist countries to people work harder, die younger and are equally miserable. Socialist countries represent the GHETTOS of the world.
@Reason10 you die younger than most, including Chinese people.
That's the real issue we have a want for equality but a need for a hierarchy
You’re about the right age to morph into a conservative…
PatKirby · M
@RisingMorningStar7

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RisingMorningStar7 · 36-40, M
@PatKirby I seen them videos. usually comes as twisted from the truth. They being saying for like 20 years china is collapsing.
22Michelle · 61-69, T
@RisingMorningStar7 China is held together by force. It is inherently unstable. Like many such Governing regimes it looks stable until it collapses. The concern should really be about when, and what might replace it, see Russia and Putin.
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22Michelle · 61-69, T
@MasterLee If it were really equal opportunities the likes of Trump and Musk would be cleaning toilets. Inherited wealth should be against Capitalist principles. Good education for all should be their basic principle.
malizz · 70-79, M
That's all very well, but if you ever get in power you will find that it corrupts you. Always happens.
PatKirby · M
@Thinkerbell

Woodn't you know it!🤡
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@PatKirby

Woodn't Bernie know it.

And AOC too. 🤭
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Reason10 · 70-79, M
You will always be disappointed. Here are the rules:
1. Equality will never exist. Humans are not clones. None of us are alike. We are all unique.

2. Communism and Socialism are the ENEMY of any kind of a good life, but they make everyone EQUALLY MISERABLE. Communist/Socialist countries represent the GHETTOS of the world. Feel free to move there at your earliest opportunity.

 
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