Anarcho communist classic

@BritishFailedAesthetic no government, workers owned businesses and no class divisions

@BritishFailedAesthetic exactly. Anarchy and communism are opposites. Communism wants the name of anarchy for marketing reasons.

@gol979 both advocate for abolishing private property and replacing it with workers owned co operatives. Abolishing class division and the state

@Guitarman123 those words are just marketing. We have already had this verbal dance, communism is about centralisation (the flip side of the coin to state sponsored capitalism), communism will end up oppressing the individual. Its antithetical to anarchism

@gol979 nothing to do with "marketing ". Both are far left ideals that strive for the same things. They just differ in how to get there. Anarchists want the state abolished overnight. Communists believe the state should wither away after successfully transitioning to a democratic socialist society

@Guitarman123 [quote] Anarchists want the state abolished overnight. [/quote]

Erm..... so who will enforce the equal distribution, workers rights, etc. Surely you have some knowledge of people to know how disoraganised we are.

Here's an anarcho capitalist 😂

[image deleted]

@Guitarman123 again, thats marketing. Its just swapping the term government for dictatorship of the proletariat.

Is free market anarchism far left?

@BritishFailedAesthetic hes not an anarcho-capitalist. Hes controlled by the same system as the former "elected" parasites. This, again, is marketing. Also has the effect of making people think anarcho-capitalists are like that utter moron and keeps people thinking theres a choice when voting.

@gol979 both advocate for proletarian liberation from the state. Both greatly criticise capitalism and seek to abolish it. No such thing as free market anarchism.

@BritishFailedAesthetic anarcho capitalism isn't a thing

@Guitarman123 fair enough. I can say anarcho-communism doesnt exist then. And now you see the difference.....i can accept you dont think a term exists but you cannot accept. Communism will end up oppressing the individual

@gol979 anarchists don't believe in the free market or capitalism at all. Anarchists and communists seek to liberate workers from the free market and capitalism as bith anarchy and communism are far left ideals amd capitalism is right wing. Both anarchy and communism have roots in french republicanism that grew out of the french revolution. Capitalism and the free market already oppresses individuals that don't have high capital

@Guitarman123 anarchy doesnt recognise the binary right/left. An anarchist can come from both those ideological stand points. Like i said, you are using anarchy as a marketing term for communism

@gol979 its a far left ideal and has been since its creation. It very much stands with the working class who are oppressed by the right wing capitalists. Anarchists are anti statism and pro liberation and pro mutualism. Far right people don't have in anyway the same ideals as Anarchists as far right individuals identify closer to fascism which is the mortal enemy of Anarchists and communists. As proven by the Spanish civil war and the Italian resistance that overthrew mussolini. Both anarchists and communists also supported the brief paris commune of 1871. Anarchists and communists formed the first international working mens association. Far right people are nationalists who hate everyone who isn't part of the ayran race.

@Guitarman123 i disagree. Anarchism respects the individual hence it can take many hues, left/right/up/down. You are trying to appropriate the term to market communism

@gol979 it respects the individual as long as that individual doesn't oppress another and exploit them for profit as is the case in capitalism. Ansrchists follow the theory of mutual aid as established by peter kropotkin. Right wing people have no respect for anyone but instead give in to selfishness and their paranoid needs to protect the ayryan race. Anarchists and communists seek to abolish capitalism and nationalism and any divisions that separates society from each other. Humans are social animals who are being further divided from each other in a capitalist world that dopes people into believing that selfishness is perfectly normal and helping other's or being considerate of other people's feelings is alien. When they say "individualism" thats referring to giving into selfishness and ignoring any consequences it may have on others

@Guitarman123 You seriously think in a lawless society noone will exploit each other?

Your view of human nature is seriously flawed.

@BritishFailedAesthetic I've never said that wouldn't be the case. In a developed socialist society that would be an absolute minority as capitalism would cease to exist. Human nature isn't that of dog eat dog but instead mutual aid. Adam smith recognised that. Charles darwin recognised that, karl marx recognised that and so did peter kropotkin

@Guitarman123 Not with original sin, it ain't.

@BritishFailedAesthetic darwin said we are social creatures who thrive of interaction with each other. Lockdowns proved that to be correct. Vast majority of people simply want to live as stress free lives as possible and establishing a dog eat dog attitude achieves the opposite which is paranoia and distrust. Its in the best interests of all people to help out our fellow beings as that maintains sociability and decreases any stress. Even tribes worked in common with each other back in the olden days. They had leaders yes, but no one was better or worse than anyone else and everyone shared the necessary resources equally

@BritishFailedAesthetic Why would we need to enforce equal distribution?
Why would everything need to be equal anyway? People could create and take what they need. Greed would be pointless. Why take 10 loaves of bread when you only need 8?