Hegseth avoids impeachment

The House dismissed an effort to impeach Pete Hegseth, handing the embattled Pentagon chief a significant victory even as he continues to face serious questions about his political future.

The House voted 211-204 to send the measure to the Judiciary Committee, effectively killing it.

Rep. Thomas Massie, R-Kentucky, who introduced the articles of impeachment against Hegseth, was the sole Republican to vote in favor of proceeding with the effort.

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Northwest · M

More Democrats missed the vote than Republicans, giving GOP leaders the numbers to successfully kill Rep. Thomas Massie’s impeachment effort.

KunsanVeteran · M

@Northwest They have to get him on the illegal orders though, because murders carry felony penalties. Those might trickle down from Trump & Kegsbreath to some of the Flag officers, maybe O-6s as they would be expected to recognize the illegality.

Anyone below that level would probably get a lesser penalty especially if they could prove that they were threatened into complying…

I wonder, though, if any Service members refused illegal orders and were punished? If so, the consequences for their senior officers could be severe…

Northwest · M

@KunsanVeteran His speech today was something else. He tried to say that impeaching him, is equivalent to impeaching the troops. Unless he seeks political asylum, he's not going to be escaping 2029. In the meanwhile, he's not likely to put the troops in harm's way, or do flyovers for Kid Rock.

KunsanVeteran · M

@Northwest In actuality, by impeaching Kegsbreath, the House members and ultimately Senators are protecting the troops.

Determining the culpability of lower ranking members is difficult. One court martial panel or military judge might make one determination and another be much more strict or lenient.

I was on several court martial panels and the variations were quite striking. The officers on the panel can be from varied backgrounds and sometimes you might have Senior NCOs even. During ACSC, Intermediate Executive Skills, and AWC we studied a bit about court marital and administrative actions and what constitutes unlawful orders but some members didn’t even have that and had to go by the basic instructions of the judge, JAGs, or ADCs.

If I had to choose, I would never, ever want a panel of officers and would always go with the judge’s decision.

MoveAlong · 70-79, M

Maybe someone will frag him before the next Congress is seated.

KunsanVeteran · M

@MoveAlong Probably best to wait while both the new House & Senate Dems can work their Reps for additional support especially in the Senate…

tenente · 36-40, M

I'm kinda into edging let's *almost* impeach RFK Jr next

KunsanVeteran · M

@tenente Great choice!

He is the deadliest member of tRUMP’s inner circle (although Kegsbreath would wrestle him for the title!)

KunsanVeteran · M

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INSANE UPDATE on Hegseth impeachment | Another Day

dancingtongue · 80-89, M

It only bought him a little time. The narrow vote came down in part to absences: 11 Democrats and seven Republicans didn't vote. Republican Rep. Bacon said he, and others he had talked to, did not think the issues Rep. Massie had in his article of impeachment were the right issues, but did not support Hegseth.

Sending it to Judiciary Comm. essentially killed it in this lame duck session of Congress. Come January, with the new Congress, and new sponsors, newly defined articles of impeachment, it will be back.

KunsanVeteran · M

[media=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAimIZqv5Nw]

DISASTER day for Pete Hegseth as impeachment EXPLOCES

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Holy Sh*t He Is Panicking

samueltyler2 · 80-89, M

Even after the drubbing they got last Tuesday, they still persist in their evil ways!

KunsanVeteran · M

@samueltyler2 I look at it this way:

Kegsbreath wasn’t watching where he was headed, stepped in quicksand, and now is up to his neck and still sinking…

Nothing left to do but flail…

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