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Are we allowed to celebrate July 4 without Donald trump?

The exclusion of the US Government is critical to a meaningful get together of Americans to celebrate the founding of our nation. I know it is hard to wrap your head around this proposal but it is time we, the people, separate ourselves from the corruption that has been trying to destroy us.
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BohoBabe · M
I'll be celebrating that America survived MAGA. We didn't lose our democracy, now we have Socialists getting elected. 'Murica! 🇺🇲
BohoBabe · M
@whowasthatmaskedman I am concerned about the coming financial collapse too. I just don't think the Fascists are in the position to take advantage. I'm much more worried about neo-liberal Democrats taking advantage and plunging us into an even more extreme version of Capitalism. But we also have Socialism on the rise, so we'll have to wait and see.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@whowasthatmaskedman
I wish I had your optimism. I see the coming financial collapse as the fuse yet to be lit. People will do desperate things when they are hungry and without hope. And America isnt there yet.😷

America is a long way from the hopeless state. It is a complex structure like the human organism; and like the body, it takes time for the corruption to take the beast down. Look at Dick Cheney. Five heart attacks and an end-stage heart failure at 71; and he still went on living on someone else's heart till he was 84.

America's financial health today is in as bad a shape as Cheney's body when he was heading for his fourth hearth attack. Like Cheney, the USA won't be dying anytime soon but the financial plumbing is shot. And I don't think we are going to get a new heart.
whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
@sree251 I do like your using Cheney as a comparison for a number of reasons.. Including it being someone elses heart he lived with. But I suspect the financial plumbing is worse than you think and the patient has been on life support for decades now. The thing is that Trump has the world in the mood to pull the plug.. The smart money is cleaning house and moving off shore quietly now. They will hold indestructible assets like land, which they can return to on a century if necessary. Anything to dump the paper currency the average schmuck relies on.. 😷
JT123 · M
I celebrated without Obama and Biden. Two of the most corrupt presidents in history.
MoveAlong · 70-79, M
@JT123
They destroyed us for 12 years combined, Trump is still repairing their damage

I would love to hear you explain how they destroyed us. In your own words please. Memes don't count except for entertainment.
CurrentName · 51-55, M
@JT123
Usually, when I see crazy stuff like this, I shake my head in disbelief and keep on walking.
Sometimes it is so completely deranged that I have to stop and make sure I read it right.
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whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Do you really feel like celebrating America right now??😷
I see no reason to celebrate the death of America. I am happy I'm a Californian and not an American
@sree251 If 99% of Ca people are lazy, how did they become the 4th largest economy in the world?
GerOttman · 70-79, M
@independentone
If 99% of Ca people are lazy, how did they become the 4th largest economy in the world?

Reagan and Arnold mostly..
sree251 · 41-45, M
@independentone
If 99% of Ca people are lazy, how did they become the 4th largest economy in the world?

The top 1% (billionaires) are the contributors to the state economy.
GerOttman · 70-79, M
So stop voting for democrats...
sree251 · 41-45, M
@GerOttman It's not the Democrats, it's the US Government.
Rolexeo · 31-35, M
Only if I can celebrate it without 50 million immigrants
I don't think America has anything worth celebrating tbh
sree251 · 41-45, M
@cherny Mexicans do. They come across the border everyday.
GerOttman · 70-79, M
@cherny Then wherinthehell did all those somalians come from?
sree251 · 41-45, M
@GerOttman Somalians also come, courtesy of the US Government.
Crazywaterspring · 61-69, M
This country is becoming trumpistan. July Fourth has become just another day.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@TheOneyouwerewarnedabout Yeah, think of something, anything - instead of using other people's trash.
BuzzedLightyear · 61-69, M
@sree251 🤡🤡🤡
sree251 · 41-45, M
@BuzzedLightyear What does it mean🤡🤡🤡?
swirlie · 31-35, F
Question really is, what is it that Americans are celebrating on July 4th ...and why?
GerOttman · 70-79, M
@swirlie we celebrate the wealth and opulance which our freedoms have provided. It's those same freedoms which allow people like you to prance around complaining about it while enjoying every luxury it provides.

You're welcome!
swirlie · 31-35, F
@GerOttman
Actually, you're wrong. Americans are not wealthy nor are Americans opulent by any stretch of the imagination... nor are Americans "free" for that matter.

What exactly then, does 'Independence Day' mean in the American mind?

 
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