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ElwoodBlues · M
That claim is not made in the US. However, in the US, most discussions of slavery relate to the Atlantic slave trade, where Arab slave traders were only marginally involved.
There's another wrinkle in the "slave trade" discussion. In the US, by the early 1800s, most slaves were born into slavery on the plantation. There was little need to buy slaves off ships. In fact, the Act Prohibiting Importation of Slaves, signed by President Jefferson in 1807, greatly reduced the importation of slaves to the US. Other slave-owning societies, in the Caribbean & South America, continued to work slaves to death and import more, but that wasn't the US pattern.
I'm not going to try and do any moral calculus on whether it's better to be born into slavery or forced into it at a later age. I'm just saying that most of the slave trade in the US was much more local and didn't involve ships.
There's another wrinkle in the "slave trade" discussion. In the US, by the early 1800s, most slaves were born into slavery on the plantation. There was little need to buy slaves off ships. In fact, the Act Prohibiting Importation of Slaves, signed by President Jefferson in 1807, greatly reduced the importation of slaves to the US. Other slave-owning societies, in the Caribbean & South America, continued to work slaves to death and import more, but that wasn't the US pattern.
I'm not going to try and do any moral calculus on whether it's better to be born into slavery or forced into it at a later age. I'm just saying that most of the slave trade in the US was much more local and didn't involve ships.
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HollowayRoadN19 · 46-50
@PeterByres55UK claim or fact
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@HollowayRoadN19 Ask what in my own profile? Who would know what I was even talking about?
HollowayRoadN19 · 46-50
@hippyjoe1955 I am sorry, I cannot help you
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@HollowayRoadN19 OK. I guess my suspicion was correct. Someone trying to assign group guilt.
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SumTingWong · M
@Charity And we should never need to pay back anyone for what was done to slaves. That's called "victim blaming",. Blaming society NOW for what was done in the past. That is like putting one in prison now because his great great grandfather committed a crime. Reparations is a 2000's word for "give me a payday for something that wasn't done to me".
The master slave mentality that won't go away......that you're talking about is called White Supremacy........White Christian Nationalism. The conspiracy theory of "race replacement" so we need to "save America".........or "Take back America" slogans you hear from MAGA Republicans.
The master slave mentality that won't go away......that you're talking about is called White Supremacy........White Christian Nationalism. The conspiracy theory of "race replacement" so we need to "save America".........or "Take back America" slogans you hear from MAGA Republicans.
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PatKirby · M
There's no such thing as left wing Western normal people, that implies they're normal or people. Such a dastardly insult to regular people, how dare you!
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HollowayRoadN19 · 46-50
@Ohplease47 Hi, before deleting this I wanted to give you the chance to answer the question, asked in the asking section...yes or no
PeterByres55UK · 56-60, M
No! Where are the TV programmes about the African kings who sold slaves to white slave buyers? The porgrammes on Muslim slave trading and Chinese and Indian slave trading history? Go figure!
markinkansas · 61-69, M
@PeterByres55UK does two wrongs make it right.? just a thought
PeterByres55UK · 56-60, M
@markinkansas Well, no, but i am just asking why that part of the story is never told? Perhaps too many uncomfortable truths would be revealed. Maybe the reparations demanded by some black activists would need to be paid by Africa? Just a thought.
markinkansas · 61-69, M
@PeterByres55UK to be fair .. in the past slaves was a common thing.. ya take over a country and you got a free workforce. /. now where can i go buy me a wife.. and yes that is still being done in some parts of the world... .
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trollslayer · 46-50, M