The ICE officer who killed a Minnesota woman is a war veteran who spent over a decade working for DHS

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ice-officer-jonathan-ross-veteran-spent-decade-dhs-rcna253254

I think it is important to not immediately demonize or convict someone before knowing anything about him.

No, he is not an untrained “proud boy” who was hired a few months ago. He is former military, a veteran, and chose law enforcement as his career. That is a respectable career path. He is a husband, and a father, and lives locally.

I’m sure we will learn more, but I hoping people leave his wife and kids alone.

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dancingtongue · 80-89, M

he is not an untrained “proud boy”

Let us not forget that the Proud Boys began as a group of former military. Contrary to the views of Hegseth & Trump, the military was not entirely "woke" before they took office.

PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M

@dancingtongue That is actually the 3%ers or the Oath Keepers. The Proud Boys believe it or not was started by Gavin mcInnes former co founder of Vice News as a bunch of alt right hipsters from Canada. Wish I was kidding.

But you are right that there has been a far right problem in the military for decades.

trollslayer · 46-50, M

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow McVeigh. Bill Cooper.

trollslayer · 46-50, M

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow speaking of McVeigh - I’m surprised this is still up:

https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/oklahoma-city-bombing

PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M

@trollslayer Not McVeigh, Gavin McInnes. A 2000s hipster podcaster and co founder of Vice News from Canada.

We are talking immaculately groomed beards and man buns and a Trump rally after a trip to the farmer's market.

The early proud boys were all this including the moustache finger tattoos of Tumblr and black and gold golf shirts.

It had some very strange beginnings. The fact it turned into what it is today is just wild.

It started out as something closer to the groypers of Nick Fuentes than a militia.

PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M

@trollslayer

This is the original Proud Boy.