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dancingtongue · 80-89, M
@Rabbit420
I liked the President of Greenland's statement reminding Trump that (1) Greenland is part of the Kingdom of Denmark and therefore a member of NATO and all NATO allies including the U.S. are bound to help defend them, including the U.S., from an attack by anyone, including an ally; and (2) as a NATO member, the U.S. already has military bases on Greenland and receives significant financial and logistical support & cooperation from Greenland as a military ally and strategic outpost of NATO.
A reasoned, adult response to the outbursts of a temperamental child in the opinion of this Yank.
[quote]I think NATO should band together and oppose anything and everything that the US does[quote]
I liked the President of Greenland's statement reminding Trump that (1) Greenland is part of the Kingdom of Denmark and therefore a member of NATO and all NATO allies including the U.S. are bound to help defend them, including the U.S., from an attack by anyone, including an ally; and (2) as a NATO member, the U.S. already has military bases on Greenland and receives significant financial and logistical support & cooperation from Greenland as a military ally and strategic outpost of NATO.
A reasoned, adult response to the outbursts of a temperamental child in the opinion of this Yank.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@newjaninev2 Which will open the MAGAs eyes only quicker, only to understand that was the plan all along, when Vance gets in.
No need for a third term at all. And no constitutional crisis.
The template for a dictatorship all set, under the guise of a theocracy called for under project 2025.
Trump can then ascend as their savior all along.
Ah-hmmm!
No need for a third term at all. And no constitutional crisis.
The template for a dictatorship all set, under the guise of a theocracy called for under project 2025.
Trump can then ascend as their savior all along.
Ah-hmmm!
G7J2O · M
@DeWayfarer This is an optimistic take, but I think Biden being elected has fatally scuppered the Project 2025 plan. Trump is having to rush, and his increasingly unhinged behaviour and warmongering acts of desperation are proving too much, even for MAGA.
I think the beginning of the end of all this will come after the midterms, or even before, as the Republicans are just two members away from losing the House. And if that happens, impeachment and conviction looms this time.
I think the beginning of the end of all this will come after the midterms, or even before, as the Republicans are just two members away from losing the House. And if that happens, impeachment and conviction looms this time.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@G7J2O oh no, Biden only force project 2025 into the open.
In fact, it wasn't until the election of Trump the first time, that project 2025 was known about. I know this, because I was one of the first to post their link in 2020, on this very site.
After Trump got elected, the second time, project 2025 even removed their whole site. That document is now on the originators site. The heritage foundation!
They are no longer even hiding the link! Do a search yourself and compare it to this:
https://static.heritage.org/project2025/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf
All because Trump has mostly implemented 66% of that document already.
Why pay for a site, if it's mostly already implemented. 🤷🏻♂
As a example, when did the removal of DEI happen, which is called for in project 2025?
Under Trump in 2025!
When did the overturning of RvW happen? Which is called for in project 2025.
Under Trump in 2025!
When did states rights get pushed in schools with the pushing of the ten commandments? Which is called for in project 2025?
Under Trump in 2025!
It goes on and on and on!
You couldn't show a better document, showing every single policy of Trump, right now. It's over 900 pages long!
BTW While impeachment is certain and even Trump himself has recently mentioned it. Conviction most certainly is not even close.
The Senate will still be mostly Republicans. Plus the Chief Justice of the supreme Court presides over the trail!
So again no conviction!
In fact, it wasn't until the election of Trump the first time, that project 2025 was known about. I know this, because I was one of the first to post their link in 2020, on this very site.
After Trump got elected, the second time, project 2025 even removed their whole site. That document is now on the originators site. The heritage foundation!
They are no longer even hiding the link! Do a search yourself and compare it to this:
https://static.heritage.org/project2025/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf
All because Trump has mostly implemented 66% of that document already.
Why pay for a site, if it's mostly already implemented. 🤷🏻♂
As a example, when did the removal of DEI happen, which is called for in project 2025?
Under Trump in 2025!
When did the overturning of RvW happen? Which is called for in project 2025.
Under Trump in 2025!
When did states rights get pushed in schools with the pushing of the ten commandments? Which is called for in project 2025?
Under Trump in 2025!
It goes on and on and on!
You couldn't show a better document, showing every single policy of Trump, right now. It's over 900 pages long!
BTW While impeachment is certain and even Trump himself has recently mentioned it. Conviction most certainly is not even close.
The Senate will still be mostly Republicans. Plus the Chief Justice of the supreme Court presides over the trail!
So again no conviction!
SomeMichGuy · M
Agreed
wetncthru · F
AGREED!
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow
Strikes??
Thousands upon thousands of attacks deliberately targeting civilians .
But what's a dead child here and there compared to putin's greed and ego, huh?
How many children and babies so far?
Do you have a number?
What's russia's score so far?
out of hundreds of strikes casualties are typically in the single digits
Strikes??
Thousands upon thousands of attacks deliberately targeting civilians .
But what's a dead child here and there compared to putin's greed and ego, huh?
How many children and babies so far?
Do you have a number?
What's russia's score so far?
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newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Russian missile and drone attacks overnight on Ukraine’s capital city killed at least 13 people, including a 6-year-old boy, and wounded 132 others. A 5-month-old girl was among 14 children wounded
A large part of a nine-story residential building collapsed in the attack.
But hey, it doesn't matter, right?
Probably never happened, right?
Might have been launched by the French just to make russia look bad, right?
and in any case, it's just a couple of kids, right? Besides, they were Ukrainian, so...
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OK, let's get back to playing.
Specific references and details, please
A large part of a nine-story residential building collapsed in the attack.
But hey, it doesn't matter, right?
Probably never happened, right?
Might have been launched by the French just to make russia look bad, right?
and in any case, it's just a couple of kids, right? Besides, they were Ukrainian, so...
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OK, let's get back to playing.
The head of Ukrainian military intelligence on the other hand brags about targeting and murdering civilians and goes out of his way to do it.
Specific references and details, please
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PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow
That's not 'playing word games' - that's asking you to back up the kremlin's propaganda.
Specific references and details, please
That's not 'playing word games' - that's asking you to back up the kremlin's propaganda.
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
@newjaninev2 You are playing games. And it is rather convenient that you can just dismiss any and all facts that don't fit your far right ideology as "Kremlin propaganda".
You are no different than the young earth creationists you criticize. You ignore any and all facts that don't fit your belief system.
You support a regime that deliberately slaughters civilians, uses their own people as human shields and pretend your ideological enemy does the same when even western sources prove you a liar.
You are no different than the young earth creationists you criticize. You ignore any and all facts that don't fit your belief system.
You support a regime that deliberately slaughters civilians, uses their own people as human shields and pretend your ideological enemy does the same when even western sources prove you a liar.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@newjaninev2 OK, let's play.
Specific references and details, please
The head of Ukrainian military intelligence on the other hand brags about targeting and murdering civilians and goes out of his way to do it.
Specific references and details, please
So, let's just say the Epstein files are released, totally unredacted, and Trump is over them like measles. What then? What are you going to do about him and them?
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@jackieash Especially if they show no criminal action.
Who created the records, though?
Law-breakers do not usually create and archive records of their illegal acts, even if they have photographs of louche but legal behaviour.
Also, while a person's social association with a known criminal without being an accomplice or harbour may be very foolish, presumably under US Law it is not actually illegal. If it were even a criminal's parents would be guilty by mere relationship.
That so, as you ask, what then? If the files show association-only without criminal act, that would maintain Mr. Trump's low reputation among his opponents, but the implicit clearance would make his more ardent fans happy.
Whatever he is like as a politician, Trump as a man is deeply unpleasant; but as a US citizen presumably can only be accused, charged and tried for a crime against real evidence. Snapshots at swanky events where nothing untowards is happening show only associates, not accomplices. On the other hand anyone revealed by these files to have been an accomplice in serious crime is not above the law.
So to charge any individual, including Donald Trump, the files have to give concrete evidence of committing offences.
In the end some of the high-and-not-so-mighty may well be proven to have been involved with illegal sexual behaviour. Yet other, legally innocent people will have dragged themselves down simply by having consorted with the main offenders.
Epstein and Maxwell were not only a pair wealthy by being no-one useful. They also committed appalling crimes.
Some of their erstwhile friends / hangers-on probably did cut their ties when they learnt what the couple had done. Those who stayed were idiots to do so even if entirely innocent in law. Be they ex-princes, sometime-presidents, or mere Wall Street and "celebrity" types.
Who created the records, though?
Law-breakers do not usually create and archive records of their illegal acts, even if they have photographs of louche but legal behaviour.
Also, while a person's social association with a known criminal without being an accomplice or harbour may be very foolish, presumably under US Law it is not actually illegal. If it were even a criminal's parents would be guilty by mere relationship.
That so, as you ask, what then? If the files show association-only without criminal act, that would maintain Mr. Trump's low reputation among his opponents, but the implicit clearance would make his more ardent fans happy.
Whatever he is like as a politician, Trump as a man is deeply unpleasant; but as a US citizen presumably can only be accused, charged and tried for a crime against real evidence. Snapshots at swanky events where nothing untowards is happening show only associates, not accomplices. On the other hand anyone revealed by these files to have been an accomplice in serious crime is not above the law.
So to charge any individual, including Donald Trump, the files have to give concrete evidence of committing offences.
In the end some of the high-and-not-so-mighty may well be proven to have been involved with illegal sexual behaviour. Yet other, legally innocent people will have dragged themselves down simply by having consorted with the main offenders.
Epstein and Maxwell were not only a pair wealthy by being no-one useful. They also committed appalling crimes.
Some of their erstwhile friends / hangers-on probably did cut their ties when they learnt what the couple had done. Those who stayed were idiots to do so even if entirely innocent in law. Be they ex-princes, sometime-presidents, or mere Wall Street and "celebrity" types.
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1490wayb · 56-60, M
american interests goes back to eisinhower. greenland cannot support itself nor develop its infrastructure
PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
@newjaninev2 The has been a colonial empire since the 1898s. And you love spreading their propaganda. Free world? Are you serious?
The US has never been about a "free world" That has always been a meaningless slogan.
And The US has always just being yet another western country exploiting the so called third world. In fact for decades it has been the worst offender since the old European empires waned.
The US has never been about a "free world" That has always been a meaningless slogan.
And The US has always just being yet another western country exploiting the so called third world. In fact for decades it has been the worst offender since the old European empires waned.
G7J2O · M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow
both of those statements are false and also none of the USA's business
On this we can wholeheartedly agree! :)
swirlie · 31-35
Don't worry about any of that stuff from Trump!
Don't forget that Trump is using any means available to divert attention AWAY from his involvement with Jeffery Epstein, which means that Trump knows that he's about to be exposed as a pedophile when the remaining 2 million pages of Epstein files get released very soon! Standby for updates!
Don't forget that Trump is using any means available to divert attention AWAY from his involvement with Jeffery Epstein, which means that Trump knows that he's about to be exposed as a pedophile when the remaining 2 million pages of Epstein files get released very soon! Standby for updates!
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