More US threats towards former allies
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So, let's just say the Epstein files are released, totally unredacted, and Trump is over them like measles. What then? What are you going to do about him and them?
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@jackieash Especially if they show no criminal action.
Who created the records, though?
Law-breakers do not usually create and archive records of their illegal acts, even if they have photographs of louche but legal behaviour.
Also, while a person's social association with a known criminal without being an accomplice or harbour may be very foolish, presumably under US Law it is not actually illegal. If it were even a criminal's parents would be guilty by mere relationship.
That so, as you ask, what then? If the files show association-only without criminal act, that would maintain Mr. Trump's low reputation among his opponents, but the implicit clearance would make his more ardent fans happy.
Whatever he is like as a politician, Trump as a man is deeply unpleasant; but as a US citizen presumably can only be accused, charged and tried for a crime against real evidence. Snapshots at swanky events where nothing untowards is happening show only associates, not accomplices. On the other hand anyone revealed by these files to have been an accomplice in serious crime is not above the law.
So to charge any individual, including Donald Trump, the files have to give concrete evidence of committing offences.
In the end some of the high-and-not-so-mighty may well be proven to have been involved with illegal sexual behaviour. Yet other, legally innocent people will have dragged themselves down simply by having consorted with the main offenders.
Epstein and Maxwell were not only a pair wealthy by being no-one useful. They also committed appalling crimes.
Some of their erstwhile friends / hangers-on probably did cut their ties when they learnt what the couple had done. Those who stayed were idiots to do so even if entirely innocent in law. Be they ex-princes, sometime-presidents, or mere Wall Street and "celebrity" types.
Who created the records, though?
Law-breakers do not usually create and archive records of their illegal acts, even if they have photographs of louche but legal behaviour.
Also, while a person's social association with a known criminal without being an accomplice or harbour may be very foolish, presumably under US Law it is not actually illegal. If it were even a criminal's parents would be guilty by mere relationship.
That so, as you ask, what then? If the files show association-only without criminal act, that would maintain Mr. Trump's low reputation among his opponents, but the implicit clearance would make his more ardent fans happy.
Whatever he is like as a politician, Trump as a man is deeply unpleasant; but as a US citizen presumably can only be accused, charged and tried for a crime against real evidence. Snapshots at swanky events where nothing untowards is happening show only associates, not accomplices. On the other hand anyone revealed by these files to have been an accomplice in serious crime is not above the law.
So to charge any individual, including Donald Trump, the files have to give concrete evidence of committing offences.
In the end some of the high-and-not-so-mighty may well be proven to have been involved with illegal sexual behaviour. Yet other, legally innocent people will have dragged themselves down simply by having consorted with the main offenders.
Epstein and Maxwell were not only a pair wealthy by being no-one useful. They also committed appalling crimes.
Some of their erstwhile friends / hangers-on probably did cut their ties when they learnt what the couple had done. Those who stayed were idiots to do so even if entirely innocent in law. Be they ex-princes, sometime-presidents, or mere Wall Street and "celebrity" types.







