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The Grand Jury and the Ham Sandwich

It is often said that a prosecutor can go to a grand jury and indict a ham sandwich if he or she wants.

It seems like an overused phrase, but it really isn't.

Prosectuors tell a grand jury that it is about justice and that those they might indict will still have the ability to defend their innocence in court.

But that's not really what it's about. It's about securing some indictment.

They pad on extra charges so that the grand jury will feel that by dropping some of them they are somehow being "fair."

Additional charges of perjury and obstruction are often tacked on.

They'll use multiple charges against a defendant in the hopes of securing a plea bargain because they know a defendant's financial situation and that the threat of destroying their finances and their families' futures might be enough to get a guilty plea.

And there is no Constitutional limit on how many times prosecutors can go back to the grand jury on the same charges against a defendant.

In Russia they send those convicted to a gulag. In North Korea they are shot. Here, defendants face a financial Sword of Damocles over their heads even before undergoing trials that wil last years.

I seriously doubt the framers of the Constitution thoughtthat this would be how "justice" would work in America.
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MarkPaul · 26-30, M
Any process can be abused or misused. It's what all humans are capable of doing.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@MarkPaul
Any process can be abused or misused. It's what all humans are capable of doing.

And here are some examples:

https://www.nacdl.org/getattachment/741e82dc-c178-45d4-97f7-48d2694d4a8b/gjr_horror.pdf
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
When ever has so many apparent politically directed attempts at indictments occured?
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@beckyromero have you looked at any other justice departments over the almost 250 years of the US?
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@samueltyler2

There are hundreds of examples. Grand juries in the South once ex-Confederates got back in charge. And then there are the manipulation of grand juries against striking workers both before and after World War II. And then there's the abuse of the Justice Department by the Nixon administation and the use of grand juries to suppress dissent.

You could spend a month doing that research. You likely have that free time; I do not. 🙂
samueltyler2 · 80-89, M
@beckyromero i wish i hade that free time.
MoveAlong · 70-79, M
Unfortunately James and Comey appear to be every bit as guilty as a ham sandwich.
Yeah a ham sandwich laced with rat poison. @MoveAlong

 
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