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SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@MartinTheFirst You would like the government to provide all your food and accommodation? I'm not sure how that is going to bring down taxes.
MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M
@SunshineGirl Sure that would be fantastic. I never said anything about bringing down taxes.
Londonguy23 · 51-55, M
I agree that the wealth is disproportionately distributed. I studied for years and earn very well and built a few businesses. I work 70 to 100 hours a week combined. I get paid well but if one calculates my daily pay per hour, it fairly miniscule. I worked as a consultant as well and i have to pay National insurance and PAYE etc. My take home is less 40% of my income and as a result, it doesnt make sense now to work those hours. So im cutting back. May as well enjoy life i guess. All this means is less tax for the govt. Most of my peers have adopted a similar approach.
Wealthy people put their income and assets in complex structures and will never pay as us common people. HmRC have no chance of . Taxing those assets, if you can even agree on a value will be time consuming. Shares in a private company of house value is subjective more an art and not a science.
Maybe the ultra wealthy should get get tax breaks for donations to charities. That may help redistribute the income. They will just move overseas for 180 days and not be taxed! HMRC be smart not greedy. A small amount from everyobe is better than 1 large tax from a small number.
Ive been on the receiving end of the job seekers. They agree to interviews to get the allowance but never arrive. They are taking the hard earned tax money of others.
No government is capable or resolving it all. But start with the basics.
1. Make benefits criteria more stringent and valid and regular and invest in the teams
2. Subsidise doctors, nurses and teachers training so we increase our basic services. They can repay by signing up to a contract of services
3. We need immigrants because we have a country of old people and need the jobs filled abmnd tax from the income. Also it increases our diversity pool. This is the only way to fill the gaps until we achieve a reasonable talent pool which will take at least 10 years to achieve if not longer.
Wealthy people put their income and assets in complex structures and will never pay as us common people. HmRC have no chance of . Taxing those assets, if you can even agree on a value will be time consuming. Shares in a private company of house value is subjective more an art and not a science.
Maybe the ultra wealthy should get get tax breaks for donations to charities. That may help redistribute the income. They will just move overseas for 180 days and not be taxed! HMRC be smart not greedy. A small amount from everyobe is better than 1 large tax from a small number.
Ive been on the receiving end of the job seekers. They agree to interviews to get the allowance but never arrive. They are taking the hard earned tax money of others.
No government is capable or resolving it all. But start with the basics.
1. Make benefits criteria more stringent and valid and regular and invest in the teams
2. Subsidise doctors, nurses and teachers training so we increase our basic services. They can repay by signing up to a contract of services
3. We need immigrants because we have a country of old people and need the jobs filled abmnd tax from the income. Also it increases our diversity pool. This is the only way to fill the gaps until we achieve a reasonable talent pool which will take at least 10 years to achieve if not longer.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@Platinum We have an ageing population and a birth rate that is below the natural replacement rate. Without immigration, the ratio of economically inactive retired people to working people will become unsustainable.
We actually need "unskilled" immigrants (to fill vacancies in agriculture and healthcare) more than we do highly qualified professionals.
Of course they want to be part of our country . . but they are receiving little more than hostility from the "natives" right now.
We actually need "unskilled" immigrants (to fill vacancies in agriculture and healthcare) more than we do highly qualified professionals.
Of course they want to be part of our country . . but they are receiving little more than hostility from the "natives" right now.
Platinum · M
@SunshineGirl you cannot keep taking in immigrants in a country with roads at a standstill, schools full, not enough doctors, not enough dentists, not enough hospitals, not enough homes....i could go on, cut welfare and pay better money ....they dont want to be part of our country plus every day someone kills or rapes someone and nearly everyone they arrest are foreign.....
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@Platinum If you allowed asylum seekers to work rather than remain idle in hotels while their claims are being decided, they could begin to contribute to soxiety through their labour and taxes.
In most parts of the country schools are closing owing to lower birthrates.
In most parts of the country schools are closing owing to lower birthrates.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
It is one solution, but be wary of pinning all hopes on a single policy. Beyond real estate assets, this would be a difficult tax to assess and collect.
We have a progressive income tax system, let us use it. Add 1% to all income tiers, then increase the starting thresholds so that the poorest pay nothing at all and the "squeezed middle" feels like its income is going a bit further.
I don't like the idea of putting all the strain on Council Tax and VAT, which will disproprtionately hit the poorest in society.
We have a progressive income tax system, let us use it. Add 1% to all income tiers, then increase the starting thresholds so that the poorest pay nothing at all and the "squeezed middle" feels like its income is going a bit further.
I don't like the idea of putting all the strain on Council Tax and VAT, which will disproprtionately hit the poorest in society.
It's so annoying having this centrist "we're all in this together" philosophy! No!! I'm on £600.00 a month for universal credit- why should myself and other people who do have jobs with a low salary be affected? The rich should pay their fair share.
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G7J2O · 36-40, MNew
@jshm2 OK, but that doesn’t mean wealth taxes don’t work. Most UK high-net-worth wealth is still held in UK property, UK businesses, UK investment vehicles, and UK-based assets that can be taxed. Other countries like Norway, Switzerland (some cantons), Spain, and parts of Canada already tax wealth or net worth on domestic holdings.
A UK wealth tax wouldn’t require taxing assets in China or India. It would tax UK-resident individuals on their global assets just like income tax already does. If someone lives in the UK, they already have to declare worldwide income and gains. A wealth tax works the same way. The idea that billionaires have no taxable assets here simply isn’t accurate.
The broader point still stands I think: the current system taxes income more heavily than accumulated wealth, and that’s why people argue it’s unbalanced.
A UK wealth tax wouldn’t require taxing assets in China or India. It would tax UK-resident individuals on their global assets just like income tax already does. If someone lives in the UK, they already have to declare worldwide income and gains. A wealth tax works the same way. The idea that billionaires have no taxable assets here simply isn’t accurate.
The broader point still stands I think: the current system taxes income more heavily than accumulated wealth, and that’s why people argue it’s unbalanced.
meJess · F
The tax on flights is Air Passenger Duty, you just don’t see it in the ticket price. It’s generally higher than VAT.
pdockal · 56-60, M
Why does everybody think that's the solution ? Unless they are cheating the system why single them out ?
Flat tax where everybody pays the same percentage and minimal deductions.
Government needs to stop wasting money!
Flat tax where everybody pays the same percentage and minimal deductions.
Government needs to stop wasting money!
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
Wealth tax is a slippery slope. Govt can overspend or misspend knowing it can just erase its mistakes with special taxes. It leads to fiscal mismanagement, and eventually , seizure of assets (like the ali baba dude in China ).
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@AthrillatheHunt If government "overspends" it is because there is high demand for the services it provides. If people want those services they must fundcthem through their taxes. "Mismanagement" is an unhelpful concept imported from America. There is no evidence that the public sector is any less or more efficient than its private equivalent . . by not having to produce a shareholder dividend it frequently offers a lot more for your pound than the private sector.
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yes and the tax threshold needs ot be lifted to £20k, so the poor can pay their energy bills
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
Thats a nice socialist approach
GuidanceCounselor · 56-60, M
@SunshineGirl Thus taxes are way too high
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@GuidanceCounselor Too high for whom or what? People want services. Services need to be paid for.
GuidanceCounselor · 56-60, M
@SunshineGirl pay as you go. The most inefficient method is with taxes. Prices go up out of control and the need for more taxes arise.
redredred · M
By what right do you take something from someone else simply because they have it and you want it?
AthrillatheHunt · 51-55, M
@redredred what if you FEEL like someone doesn’t deserve what they have ? Or you FEEL like they didnt work hard enough for what they have ? That would justify it right ? Hahaha
redredred · M
@AthrillatheHunt feeling are where thoughts begin for the wise and end for the fools
Platinum · M
Last year the treasury received 1.1 trillion in tax and any government should be able to run a country with that amount of money....they dont need to put up taxes
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@Platinum We have recently emerged from a pandemic, during which the taxpayer supported jobs and businesses with billions of pounds. That needs to be paid for. So does Brexit, which has shrunk our export markets. We also have an ageing population who expect taxpayer funded pensions and universal healthcare. If you don't want to pay more tax, choose which of these popular but expensive policies should not have been pursued.
Platinum · M
@SunshineGirl its not taxpayers money paying pensions its pensioners working and paying tax for 50 years +
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@Platinum They are not. State pensions are a socialised welfare benefit, not a regulated pension scheme. They are entirely dependent upon tax revenue continuing to flow. That is why the retirement age keeps getting pushed upwards. More people living for longer places a strain on the working population which funds the system.
OriginalNedKelly · M
Are you a socialist? Time for the government to stop massive immigration, reduce spending for a start
Tax tax tax until everyone is poor
Tax tax tax until everyone is poor
Thinkerbell · 41-45, F
@OriginalNedKelly
"Until everyone is poor."
Everyone, that is, except for the socialist Nomenklatura.
"Until everyone is poor."
Everyone, that is, except for the socialist Nomenklatura.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@OriginalNedKelly Or austerity, austerity, austerity . . until levels of inequality soar and the economy flatlines due to lack of investment in people and infrastructure.
@OriginalNedKelly socialism is what uk is, nhs is socialist, free schooling socialist, do we really want a capitlais state?
meJess · F
Which country are you resident in? You obviously don’t like Trump but you also have all the answers for the UK.
Where do you vote?
Where do you vote?
MasterLee · 56-60, M
Taxation is theft. Taxes are too high everywhere.
ididntknow · 56-60, M
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gol979 · 46-50, M
Tax is a system of "legal" theft set up by the wealthy and powerful. They will never steal from themselves.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@gol979 No it is not. It is a democratic system set up to pay for public goods and services that everyone uses and the private sector is unwilling or unable to supply.
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