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I'll just say what a lot of us are thinking: Charlie Kirk was not an important man. He was a social media personality making money. Period.

The political right in America are propping up his barely cold corpse and parading it around in an attempt to further their political agenda.
All the performative rending of garments and gnashing of teeth is just theater to galvanize their largely ignorant base.
Kirk was not a great man or champion of free speech. He was just a backwards Christian nationalist who used debating college kids as a means to platform his regressive, harmful views and make money off the people he managed to fool.

As a man he'll be forgotten in the blink of an eye and remembered only by the right as something they know they're mad about.

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Patriot96 · 56-60, C

And the left canonized george floyd and erected a stutue for a criminal drug adict

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DearAmbellina2113 · 41-45, F

@Patriot96 we watched Floyd die on film at the hands of public servants. Not the same at all.

And PS- you're delusional if you think our politicians aren't drug users and criminals.

Ferise1 · 46-50, M

@DearAmbellina2113 we watched Charlie die on film as well

DearAmbellina2113 · 41-45, F

@Ferise1 cops didn't kill Charlie

Ferise1 · 46-50, M

@DearAmbellina2113 so what?

Pikachu

@Ferise1

Murdered by some guy...not by public servants working for the government.

Pikachu

@Patriot96

Well let's point out the obvious difference in context between a random murder and a murder committed by police officers.
Floyd was just a match on the gasoline.
But what argument do you think you're making?

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Pikachu

@Ferise1

The difference is that as part of the police having the power and authority to be able to detain people, take away their freedom we are meant to be able to trust their skills, judgement and morality while on duty.
Their murder of Floyd was a violation of that agreement.
Vs
A man killing another man for reasons that seemed good to them.

That's the difference.

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Pikachu

@Ferise1

Nope.
Even were that the case for an officer personally, their duty is not to be judge, jury and executioner.
That is a violation of the agreement between the citizens they serve and themselves for the power they wield.

Not the same thing whatsoever.
Sorry, but you haven't a leg to stand on here. You and i can agree that both murders were wrong (or at least i hope we can) but the circumstance is entirely dissimilar.

The police represent our government. This murder represented....himself.
You follow?

Ferise1 · 46-50, M

@Pikachu it’s absolutely the same matter, the shooter considered himself judge jury and executioner. The murder of Charlie wasn’t kinder than the murder of Floyd.

Pikachu

@Ferise1

the shooter considered himself judge jury and executioner.

The police represent our government. This murderer represented....himself.
You follow?

Ferise1 · 46-50, M

@Pikachu makes no difference. One killing is not kinder than the other.

Pikachu

@Ferise1

Didn't say it was any kinder. That's just something you imagined .
It does make a difference for the reason's i've described and saying " Nuh uh, it's the same" really isn't a sufficient counterargument.
Sorry.
But you agree that it was wrong of the police to murder Floyd, right? I want you to say those words.

Ferise1 · 46-50, M

@Pikachu they’re the same act. you’re the one going nuh-uh

Pikachu

@Ferise1

they’re the same act

So you agree that it was wrong of the police to murder Floyd, right?
I want you to say those words.

Ferise1 · 46-50, M

@Pikachu why? It’s exactly like l said those words, as l said they are the same act. You’re not very bright

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Ferise1 · 46-50, M

@Pikachu wow you’re incredibly insulting, like someone who lost the argument in a really bad way😂😂😂

Pikachu

@Ferise1

lol you called me " not very bright" first...so by your logic you're losing the argument, hmm?

Aaaaanyway.
To sum up: I explained why the context of the murders was different on the basis that one was committed by a random guy and the other under a violation of the duties of and the agreements with representatives of the government, you replied with effectively " Nuh uhhhh!" aaaand demonstrated your own moral hypocrisy because you evidently are pleased by the murder of Floyd

lol thanks for playing

NEXT

Ferise1 · 46-50, M

@Pikachu no l said it to point out the problem in this discussion, and it was way less insulting than what you called me😂😂😂 you’re just really sensitive.
You are just more afraid of police brutality because you’re on the wrong side of the law. But it doesn’t change the nature of murder.
And cops don’t systematically murder people like that, it’s a rare occurrence.

Pikachu

@Ferise1

lol you don't even realize how what you just said was funny. 🤣🤣🤣

Sorry, you've lost my attention. 😘

BritishFailedAesthetic · M

@Patriot96 I disagree with OP's heartless attitude to Kirk's death too but you're wrong too.

Yes Floyd had drug addiction issues but that's not how he died, he was actually a Christian who even engaged in local missionary work and showed repentance by going on a drug treatment course.

Patriot96 · 56-60, C

@BritishFailedAesthetic you are totally wrong. He was engaged in criminal activity, resisted arrest, was strung out on crack and fentynal which contributed to his death

BritishFailedAesthetic · M

@Patriot96 Read what I wrote. Glad to see you are sinless

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