Charlie kirk said himself that he doesn't believe in empathy. He also has several quotes of him celebrating murder of Democrats or attempted murder too. He said immigrants were poisoning us. Terrible person and conservatives are terrible for choosing to care now when they never put Kirk in his place when celebrating the murder of others openly
And honestly, Kirk said that empathy is just a leftist woke idea so what are conservatives on about. It's not a big deal according to kirks own philosophy so 🤷
Seems like the right needs to decide if empathy is okay or not, they tend to switch it up depending on if they can make the left look bad or not or gaslight everyone to death.
@JSul3 i can understand that. But I also assume Kirk had friends and family who are now grieving. I empathize with them. As for Kirk himself? I view him as a man misled rather than someone who is truly evil.
He shouldn't have been murdered, no one should be celebrating it because it kinda shows what kind of a society you have.
But saying that he:
"[...] encouraged dialogue and discussion" "[...] never advocated for violence"
... Did this guy ever listen to the Charlie Kirk show? Like that time that Charlie voiced the "strong opinion" (2023, with guest star Riley Gaines), that transgender people are sick and that the reason why they are more in public now is because male testeron rates have gone down. Men are acting like women, and thus they didn't stop trangenders from becoming part of the center. He called for strength to go against them. And also added that transgenders needed to be dealt with like they were in the 50s and 60s.
But a segment of conservatives that adhere to authoritarian ideals, seem to have a hard time reading between the lines. And for them, this is probably a verry peacefull message because the guy didn't explicitly say that the people he didn't like should end up in a psych ward, held down and lobotimised.
The fact is, Charlie was advocating for communities to peer pressure minorities that his christian nationalist ideals couldn't stomach. He advocated for the state to be used against them. Charlie, wasn't a peacefull guy. And he didn't do discussion either, he did debate. When he got corrected by people, and was forced to admit that he was wrong. He would cut it out of his youtube videos and say the same dumb stuff the next day. Because he wasn't selling the truth, he was selling snakeoil. Charlie was a demagogue. He's not redeemable. Pretending that he was outside of the "extremist" category, is just ignorant.
@houseonfire Oh, you think Charlie was about "truth"... that's so cute. I see you are taking a break... considering your last post, I advice you to take a really long one and look for some professional help. Stay away from church, you are breain dead enough. Good luck.
"... been pretty vocal in my opposition to some of the rhetoric that I've seen come out of Donald tRump and others"
"... really not all that familiar with Charlie Kirk, most of what I know aboutt Charlie Kirk I've learned in the last couple of hours"
So maybe he's unaware of how OK Charlie Kirk was with gun violence. Just to be clear, I don't condone violence and I deplore this killing. But Charlie Kirk apparently found extra gun deaths to be acceptable:
"I think it's worth to have a cost of unfortunately some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the 2nd Amendment. That is a prudent deal. It is rational. Nobody talks like this. They live in a complete alternate universe."
Charlie Kirk at the Salt Lake City campus of Awaken Church on April 5, 2023.
And Charlie Kirk did NOT want your empathy!
"I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made-up, new age term that – it does a lot of damage."
— Charlie Kirk on 'The Charlie Kirk Show', Oct. 12 2022
Kirk opposed the Civil Rights Act: "I have a very, very radical view on this, but I can defend it, and I've thought about it," Kirk said. "We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the 1960s," he said at a December 2023 political conference hosted by his Turning Points USA group.
In a 2021 interview with Tucker Carlson, Kirk also reportedly compared pandemic vaccine requirements to apartheid. In a February 2024 Instagram post, he also talked about the "great replacement" -- a widely debunked conspiracy theory-- suggesting undocumented immigrants entering the United States to replace white Americans.
Overt racism: "I'm sorry. If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to be like, 'Boy, I hope he's qualified,'" Kirk said during a 2024 podcast episode with fellow rightwing activist Jack Posobeic.
Before I read your post, I'd never heard of this Charlie Kirk character. After reading the comments, I'm sure I wouldn't have liked him. In fact, I made a post against sympathy just last week, having no knowledge of this guy or his take on empathy. Although I agree, I think I agree for a different reason, but had I known about this guy and his outspoken take on empathy, I doubt I would have made my post against sympathy.
All that aside, it doesn't matter how much of a douchebag this guy was. As an American, he was born with the right to speak freely. None of the outlandish, foul-mouthed rhetoric this clown spewed was worthy of a death sentence. To say it was is a slippery slope to the point where you get a death sentence for anything you say. .."you" being anyone who believes Charlie Kirk deserved to die because of his beliefs and his proclivity with which to speak publicly about them.
This sort of thing is what martyrs are made of. Whoever thought they were solving a problem by killing this otherwise innocent man may have just made it exponentially worse, especially considering the tactics of the side for which he played/plays still.
..on a lighter note, the dude in the video needs to get his dentures shimmed or realigned or something. The way he whistles through his bottom teeth was a big distraction for me. I kept expecting them to fall out of his mouth and do that repeatedly biting thing as they marched off out of view, ..like those old wind-up novelty teeth from the past.. ..just saying 😬😏🫣
@ElwoodBlues well if there's a god who makes those sorts of decisions, the man is facing him now and wherever he will sow is God's decision. Not ours. Im just saying that if that God exists, you'll face him too one day. Luckily for us, we still have some control over what we might sow one day. This guy's gone man. Let him go. Im just trying to help..
We should all take this as a reminder that life is time. Time is life. We dont know how much we have until its gone, so we shouldn't waste it being petty ..or hateful. We shoukd enjoy as much of it as we can
Trump immediately blamed the left. His son went scorched earth on the left.
Not what the President or his family should be doing.
People should decide what to think of Charlie Kirk, but no one should be allowed to use political rhetoric to justify an act of violence.
Something Charlie Kirk should have thought of himself, when he call of all Patriots in San Francisco, to be heroes and bail out the guy who fractured Paul Pelosi's skull. I'm sure though that if what Charlie Kirk believes in is true, Jesus is not going to love that statement. So, I hope Charlie Kirk is right.
@val70 Perhaps I took your comment the wrong way. I took it as sarcasm. There wasn't much to go on in your response, and it didn't really make sense to me. Sorry if I made you upset.
@Realifecuckold You didn't make me upset, but what's going on today when a person can't even ask the other for his thoughts? I put myself out there at first because I'm indeed conservative and religious. It was an intro to who I am. I don't want anyone to change, nor do I expect morality to be upheld just because it's a given from God and such. I expect that there's the same sort of discourse that actually achieves something instead of shoving ones ideas unto others. Just that
@val70 I misread your response. I really didn't know what you meant by surprise me. I think that perhaps there are too many one or two sentence responses on here, which can be ambiguous. There is also a lot of tension in America today. It has gotten so bad. I am not sure if this is that anyone meant by making America great again, but it has never been worse.
People should not have to explain their politics and their religious beliefs in a conversation. They should be able to get along regardless of both of those things.
Well, Trump isn't a "conservative" or a "Christian" so it would stand to reason you wouldn't be a Trump supporter. Wish more people would use their brain and draw the same conclusion.
@SatanBurger It worked! You'd be surprised at how spending a night bound and gagged behind the bushes in a deep ravine can cool off a wild man's temper!
