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Charlie Kirk

For the record, I'm a conservative and christian but if I were American I'd never be a Trump supporter. This recent posting on Youtube says it all for me. Good one to watch

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SatanBurger · 36-40, F

Charlie kirk said himself that he doesn't believe in empathy. He also has several quotes of him celebrating murder of Democrats or attempted murder too. He said immigrants were poisoning us. Terrible person and conservatives are terrible for choosing to care now when they never put Kirk in his place when celebrating the murder of others openly

And honestly, Kirk said that empathy is just a leftist woke idea so what are conservatives on about. It's not a big deal according to kirks own philosophy so 🤷

Seems like the right needs to decide if empathy is okay or not, they tend to switch it up depending on if they can make the left look bad or not or gaslight everyone to death.

val70 · 51-55

@SatanBurger During Kirk's comments then, he said he didn't care for the word "empathy" and instead preferred "sympathy." The Oxford English Dictionary defines empathy as "the ability to understand and share the feelings of another." Meanwhile, the same dictionary defines sympathy as "feelings of pity and sorrow for someone else's misfortune."

SatanBurger · 36-40, F

@val70 Okay but he still has quotes advocating for assault and attempted murder of democrat politicians. Why couldn't cons be all mad then since celebrating murder or attempted murder "is always wrong," what a weird time to flex their morals 🥴

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val70 · 51-55

@SatanBurger I can't find what you claim there and I've watched plenty of debates with him. He never was an advocate for assault nor murder of anyone. And morals aren't there to be "flexed". Morals are morals, and having none is up to the person

SatanBurger · 36-40, F

@val70 https://www.huffpost.com/entry/charlie-kirk-political-violence_n_68c1f342e4b0656225ceaab0

Many GOP figures piled on. That included Kirk, who, in 2022, called for “some amazing patriot out there in San Francisco or the Bay Area wants to really be a midterm hero, someone should go and bail [the attacker] out.”

He's said a bunch of other stuff too.

SatanBurger · 36-40, F

@val70

Morals are morals, and having none is up to the person

Then what you complaining about? If people choose to not have morality around kirk's death, then it's all good then. Having none is up to the person

SatanBurger · 36-40, F

@val70 Also:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/charlie-kirk-controversies-1.7630859

"I have a very, very radical view on this, but I can defend it, and I've thought about it," Kirk said. "We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the 1960s."

Kirk decried not only Martin Luther King Jr., calling the civil rights leader "awful" and "not a good person," but also the Civil Rights Act of 1965 that outlawed discrimination on the basis of race, colour, religion, sex and national origin, and prohibited segregation.

In a February 2024 Instagram post, Kirk referred to the "great replacement" conspiracy theory (which has been widely debunked), suggesting undocumented immigrants are coming to the U.S. to replace white Americans

"I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made up new age term that does a lot of damage."

val70 · 51-55

@SatanBurger Have never complained. You made statements that were wrong. It's up to you to know what's the done thing is. Having no morality isn't what should aim at. Those kind of people one needs to limit to their own. I shouldn't have to tell anyone for example that although I hope that God will take Trump that I don't actually mean him any physical harm

SatanBurger · 36-40, F

@val70 Um I just posted a link to where kirk said those things lol 😆

val70 · 51-55

@SatanBurger What are you on about? I didn't even like the guy. He said stupid things in context of the Paul Pelosi attacker. It was in an article of Rolling Stone. It was about bailing the attacker out. The core of this all is that one doesn't celebrate the murder of an opponent

SatanBurger · 36-40, F

@val70 Conservatives celebrate murder all the time. Cons are just pretending to have an issue as it gives them a chance to do their quarterly raising votes by drumming up the usual fears of the violent left even though leftist violence is at all time low while right winged extremism is at an all time high via statistics.

Conservatives do this from time to time where they hope to reach the fence sitters and get them on their side. That's all that is.

Cons sure don't care about the immigrants lives they've ruined or trans rights or women's rights of their own bodies for people who care about murder all of a sudden

wishforthenight

@SatanBurger

Conservatives celebrate murder all the time.

Agreed. I've already posted that if Kirk had been a liberal doing the same things that he was doing, I truly dread to think how disgusting the reactions would be.

val70 · 51-55

@SatanBurger You can attack conservatives on your own time. Now it's about not celebrating the murder of an opponent. I can't put any clearer that. Move on

SatanBurger · 36-40, F

@val70 Just because people don't feel bad that kirk died doesn't mean they're saying it's okay. You can say murder is bad but still not shed a tear over someone.

The reality was he was a person who said we should have never had basic civil rights and that women shouldn't have careers among other things. He said hurtful and mean things.

You need be realistic in your expectations in expecting others to be sad over someone who championed their abuses and often exploited people who were vulnerable.

JSul3 · 70-79

@SatanBurger I had one guy tell me, hey "empathy is wrong....Kirk belived in sympathy!"

trollslayer · 46-50, M

@JSul3 what would Jesus say about that?

JSul3 · 70-79

@trollslayer
Read the Sermon On The Mount.

If everyone, regardless of religion or political beliefs, took heed to the message, maybe the world could be a better place.

trollslayer · 46-50, M

@JSul3 having empathy for the person who cannot have empathy for you is what I consider the highest mark of christianity.

JSul3 · 70-79

@trollslayer I won't argue that.
I fall short.

I have empathy only for the children.

trollslayer · 46-50, M

@JSul3 i can understand that. But I also assume Kirk had friends and family who are now grieving. I empathize with them. As for Kirk himself? I view him as a man misled rather than someone who is truly evil.

SatanBurger · 36-40, F

@JSul3

I had one guy tell me, hey "empathy is wrong....Kirk belived in sympathy!"

Which is funny because if you have to overthink and develop a whole philosophy on sympathy vs empathy, kirk was doing it wrong