redredred · M
It doesn’t matter what the rest of the world thinks. The American electorate resoundingly elected him and still likes how he’s doing the job.
The one thing I credit Trump for is that he's forcing everyone to re-evaluate the principles of Western democracy. What do we stand for in this world in 2025, and how can we ensure democracy is fit for purpose in the age of social media and the development of digital currency and AI? He's making Americans (and everyone else) take a closer look at their institutions, their justice system, even the Constitution itself. His administration is proving to be a vigorous workout for all the checks and balances we thought would protect us. Maybe we fell asleep at the wheel and became too comfortable in our reliance on the institutional structures we've erected? Trump is like those people who check your company's security systems to try and identify breaches that you can then fix. Of course he doesn't actively mean to do that, but that's been the inadvertent effect of his election as POTUS and his assault on the status quo. I know things can spiral out of control and people might get injured or even die. But maybe we needed this to happen? Only time will tell.
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SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Richard65
Honestly it's because of Trump that I no longer really support capitalism, I just haven't said anything because I still don't know what I am politically. I know my politics lean left but I'm not in a hurry to define anything. All I know is that our society is considerably weak and it's even weaker with Trump.
I mean for Christ sake, DOGE employees broke in to a privately owned business and just helped themselves. They had to have the cops called on them as they refused to leave.
And still, no arrests regarding Elon is made and Trump isn't being held accountable for anything. So it's quite obvious that our system is so weak that just anyone can take over. What if it wasn't Trump but someone even worse? What would we do?
Capitalism is weak, democracy seems weak.. no checks and balances and I'm not sure I believe any of it anymore.
he's forcing everyone to re-evaluate the principles of Western democracy.
Honestly it's because of Trump that I no longer really support capitalism, I just haven't said anything because I still don't know what I am politically. I know my politics lean left but I'm not in a hurry to define anything. All I know is that our society is considerably weak and it's even weaker with Trump.
I mean for Christ sake, DOGE employees broke in to a privately owned business and just helped themselves. They had to have the cops called on them as they refused to leave.
And still, no arrests regarding Elon is made and Trump isn't being held accountable for anything. So it's quite obvious that our system is so weak that just anyone can take over. What if it wasn't Trump but someone even worse? What would we do?
Capitalism is weak, democracy seems weak.. no checks and balances and I'm not sure I believe any of it anymore.
Richard65 · M
@SatanBurger yes, it's certainly terrifying, like a horse loose in a hospital as one stand-up comedian put it recently. If we survive this dismantling of public institutions and the trashing of the status quo, hopefully we'd have learned something and be better for it. Trump's like the Dark Web, reminding everyone that the regular internet lacks adequate checks and balances that might ultimately destroy us. He's the worst aspects of rampant western freedoms made manifest. He's America's dirty linen hanging out on the washing line for the whole world to see.
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@SatanBurger I think we must realize that concepts like democracy are a construct and only exist if people believe in them.
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Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@beermeplease From the outside looking in, I am increasingly thinking that Mark Carney will win your election.
beermeplease · M
@Burnley123 i think so too...but i know some of my friends on here from ontario are going to vote conservative...basically ontario decides the election
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JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@Adeptlinguist Precisely! Trump personifiies everything that is bad with American, every negative American stereotype. I don't think Canada will trust the US for generations.
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emiliya · 22-25, F
@JimboSaturn Russian but bot, not
Confined · 56-60, M
The United States is the only democracy in the world. Canada and UK and even Australia are all dictatorships.
He and Vance made it clear any country that messes with our democracy is going down.
We will not fight in the wars they create.
France says they are sending troops to fight Russia. When France gets Nuked the USA will do nothing. Its not our war.
He and Vance made it clear any country that messes with our democracy is going down.
We will not fight in the wars they create.
France says they are sending troops to fight Russia. When France gets Nuked the USA will do nothing. Its not our war.
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@Confined Please tell me about the arrests. UK is not demanding the 'end to all free speech'. It is demanding social media companies and people who post to take responsibility for the results of false or malicious posts which lead to real world harm. Free speech doesn't mean no consequence.
JD Vance is part of an administration which has launched attacks on media outlets which won't fall in line with the President's view of the world, where private news organisations have been described at 'illegal' for offering alternative takes on political matters or reporting facts uncomfortable to the prevailing mood. Apart from Hungary (and Poland in the past), nothing has happened like that in EU or the UK to my recollection.
JD Vance is part of an administration which has launched attacks on media outlets which won't fall in line with the President's view of the world, where private news organisations have been described at 'illegal' for offering alternative takes on political matters or reporting facts uncomfortable to the prevailing mood. Apart from Hungary (and Poland in the past), nothing has happened like that in EU or the UK to my recollection.
Adeptlinguist · M
@Confined
I do live in Europe (currently in Sweden) and this is patently not true. And Sweden is far more of a democracy than the US is with its absurd electoral college system and "2 senators per state" regardless of the population of the state.
Yes I did and it was a shameful and demeaning spectacle for your country - if you are basing your view of Europe on what JD Vance says, then it's hardly surprising you are so ill-informed. While at the same time Trump is saying that certain news organisations should be made illegal for disagreeing with him.
Also - it may have escaped your attention that ICE is rounding up and deporting people who are living perfectly legally in the US, purely for something they have said or written. The US is showing many signs of fascism, which is NOT the case in Europe (with the possible exception of Hungary - which is widely decried by the rest of Europe).
As for people being arrested, there were arrrests in the UK for incitement to riot. I think you'll find that incitement to riot is also illegal in the US.
Do you know if you live in Europe and you critize the govt in a meme you will be arrested??? If you say anything online about EU leaders you will be arrested. Is that a democracy???
I do live in Europe (currently in Sweden) and this is patently not true. And Sweden is far more of a democracy than the US is with its absurd electoral college system and "2 senators per state" regardless of the population of the state.
Did you hear the speech JD Vance made about that?
Yes I did and it was a shameful and demeaning spectacle for your country - if you are basing your view of Europe on what JD Vance says, then it's hardly surprising you are so ill-informed. While at the same time Trump is saying that certain news organisations should be made illegal for disagreeing with him.
Also - it may have escaped your attention that ICE is rounding up and deporting people who are living perfectly legally in the US, purely for something they have said or written. The US is showing many signs of fascism, which is NOT the case in Europe (with the possible exception of Hungary - which is widely decried by the rest of Europe).
As for people being arrested, there were arrrests in the UK for incitement to riot. I think you'll find that incitement to riot is also illegal in the US.
Adeptlinguist · M
@Confined
The technical term for this statement is "BS".
Take Sweden, for example. Freedom of speech is a basic part of the Swedish constitution. You can read it here: https://www.riksdagen.se/sv/dokument-och-lagar/dokument/svensk-forfattningssamling/yttrandefrihetsgrundlag-19911469_sfs-1991-1469/#K1
Not a single place on the european continent has free speech.
The technical term for this statement is "BS".
Take Sweden, for example. Freedom of speech is a basic part of the Swedish constitution. You can read it here: https://www.riksdagen.se/sv/dokument-och-lagar/dokument/svensk-forfattningssamling/yttrandefrihetsgrundlag-19911469_sfs-1991-1469/#K1
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@bookerdana Yep. After he said in a UN speech that he is the greatest president since Abraham Lincoln.
emiliya · 22-25, F
@JimboSaturn I am sure every American president is laughed at or despised. What is different about Trump?
If he made his mind up about what kind of leader he wants to be, he would make it easier for himself. He is no isolationist when he is sending arms to Ukraine, antagonizing Iran, and allowing Zionists to bomb helpless Palestinians. You should love his foreign policy.
If he made his mind up about what kind of leader he wants to be, he would make it easier for himself. He is no isolationist when he is sending arms to Ukraine, antagonizing Iran, and allowing Zionists to bomb helpless Palestinians. You should love his foreign policy.
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PicturesOfABetterTomorrow · 41-45, M
@newjaninev2 Sure you do. This conspiracy theory that Trump is a Russian asset.
Takes some next level mental gymnastics to convince yourself that peace is treason and diplomacy is appeasement.
Takes some next level mental gymnastics to convince yourself that peace is treason and diplomacy is appeasement.
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emiliya · 22-25, F
It does not matter if Trump is respected. The rest of the world is not what you think it is. It is dog eat dog. He is leader of US, a major power with decades of bullying behind it. Is this not enough?
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@emiliya
That's why we observe the international rule of law - except those countries ruled by dogs.
It is dog eat dog
That's why we observe the international rule of law - except those countries ruled by dogs.
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SomeMichGuy · M
DJT is the laughingstock of the world...behind his back.
{ NATO - USA } meeting with the USA not invited? SMH
And a new crazy proposal more frequent than the eruptions of Yellowstone NP's "Old Faithful" geyser...
He'll offer to buy Africa for $24 in beads to best the Manhattan island deal...
{ NATO - USA } meeting with the USA not invited? SMH
And a new crazy proposal more frequent than the eruptions of Yellowstone NP's "Old Faithful" geyser...
He'll offer to buy Africa for $24 in beads to best the Manhattan island deal...
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
Not the whole world, just the West, minus the leftists among you. Obviously. You're winning proudly together with the conservatives, moderates and conservatives together making war the only future! Gahead.
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