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The one thing I credit Trump for is that he's forcing everyone to re-evaluate the principles of Western democracy. What do we stand for in this world in 2025, and how can we ensure democracy is fit for purpose in the age of social media and the development of digital currency and AI? He's making Americans (and everyone else) take a closer look at their institutions, their justice system, even the Constitution itself. His administration is proving to be a vigorous workout for all the checks and balances we thought would protect us. Maybe we fell asleep at the wheel and became too comfortable in our reliance on the institutional structures we've erected? Trump is like those people who check your company's security systems to try and identify breaches that you can then fix. Of course he doesn't actively mean to do that, but that's been the inadvertent effect of his election as POTUS and his assault on the status quo. I know things can spiral out of control and people might get injured or even die. But maybe we needed this to happen? Only time will tell.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@Richard65 It's brought about a reconning. alright. The old geopolitical world order is gone and it's shown both the fragility if liberal centrism and the cynicism of the right.
Richard65 · M
@Burnley123 absolutely agree. It's not pretty, but I'm trying to look at it as a reckoning. That's a good way of describing it. I do think we all needed this. At least, that's the spin I'm telling myself. Democracy needs a work out to test its fitness for the modern age. This is it.
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SatanBurger · 36-40, F
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Honestly it's because of Trump that I no longer really support capitalism, I just haven't said anything because I still don't know what I am politically. I know my politics lean left but I'm not in a hurry to define anything. All I know is that our society is considerably weak and it's even weaker with Trump.
I mean for Christ sake, DOGE employees broke in to a privately owned business and just helped themselves. They had to have the cops called on them as they refused to leave.
And still, no arrests regarding Elon is made and Trump isn't being held accountable for anything. So it's quite obvious that our system is so weak that just anyone can take over. What if it wasn't Trump but someone even worse? What would we do?
Capitalism is weak, democracy seems weak.. no checks and balances and I'm not sure I believe any of it anymore.
he's forcing everyone to re-evaluate the principles of Western democracy.
Honestly it's because of Trump that I no longer really support capitalism, I just haven't said anything because I still don't know what I am politically. I know my politics lean left but I'm not in a hurry to define anything. All I know is that our society is considerably weak and it's even weaker with Trump.
I mean for Christ sake, DOGE employees broke in to a privately owned business and just helped themselves. They had to have the cops called on them as they refused to leave.
And still, no arrests regarding Elon is made and Trump isn't being held accountable for anything. So it's quite obvious that our system is so weak that just anyone can take over. What if it wasn't Trump but someone even worse? What would we do?
Capitalism is weak, democracy seems weak.. no checks and balances and I'm not sure I believe any of it anymore.
Richard65 · M
@SatanBurger yes, it's certainly terrifying, like a horse loose in a hospital as one stand-up comedian put it recently. If we survive this dismantling of public institutions and the trashing of the status quo, hopefully we'd have learned something and be better for it. Trump's like the Dark Web, reminding everyone that the regular internet lacks adequate checks and balances that might ultimately destroy us. He's the worst aspects of rampant western freedoms made manifest. He's America's dirty linen hanging out on the washing line for the whole world to see.
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@SatanBurger I think we must realize that concepts like democracy are a construct and only exist if people believe in them.