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Zelensky, the tough guy, disrespects Trump.

Mr Zelensky had been scheduled to have lunch with Trump and both leaders were going to sign a minerals deal during a joint news conference.

Instead, Mr Zelensky’s armored SUV abruptly pulled up to the door of the West Wing moments after a heated shouting match.

Trump has gutted Deep State, the covert power of the US President to take out foreign actors. Trump is on his own, and Zelensky knows it. Soon, the whole world will know it.
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JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
How much financial support has the US given Ukraine?
Western allies provide Ukraine with a range of financial support, spanning humanitarian and development aid, military support as well as other financial allocations.

The assistance is designed to help prop up Ukraine's economy and give it the military power it needs to withstand Russia's invasion.

According to US federal government sources, Congress has passed five so-called 'supplemental appropriation acts' since the 2022 invasion, allocating $174.2 billion in funds for Ukraine.

Another US government tracker - which compiles data from over 20 oversight entities from across the government - puts the headline sum slightly higher at $182.8 billion. This is because the tracker also includes smaller donations made by other government agencies, such as the U.S. Agency for Global. Media (USAGM) or the Department of Justice (DOJ).

Of this, $182.8 billion pot, only $83.4 billion has been disbursed, with the remaining $99,4 billion either not yet committed or not yet approved for payment.

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Other estimates provided by the Berlin-based Kiel institute for the World Economy put the headline figure of total US assistance at 114.15 billion (119.76 billion).

This is because of the Kiel Institute's methodology, which only considers support directly given to Ukraine. It excludes things like money used to replenish US weapon stocks following donations to Kyiv, or funds spent to help neighbouring countries welcome Ukrainian refugees.

This is the true amount the US has given Ukraine, roughly half of what Trump said today.
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sree251 · 41-45, M
@JimboSaturn
This is the true amount the US has given Ukraine, roughly half of what Trump said today.

Ok, I get your point: nobody knows how and where the money - in the billions - flows. This in itself is mind-blowingly scandalous.

I check my account everyday and knows exactly where every cent is going. I expect the US government to publish its accounting openly and easily accessible to any tax paying US citizen. Our money transactions are electronic unless the US government is disbursing cash in suitcases and cardboard boxes to God knows who.

Do you understand what I am saying, Jimbo?
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Starcrossed · 41-45, F
Z was categorically NOT being disrespectful whatsoever. Trump and Vance on the other hand were incredibly disrespectful and close minded to even listening. Every day the asset Krasnov suggestion seems more plausible.
ididntknow · 51-55, M
@JimboSaturn no it isn’t, zelenskyy came to sign the deal, changed his mind, he’d been briefed by Victoria Nuland and Chuck Shummer, told not to sign the deal, anyway retribution has come no more weapons to Ukraine, as per President Trump, don’t disrespect the Don 😎 he’ll make you an offer, you can’t refuse
Starcrossed · 41-45, F
Liars gonna perpetuate lies.


We all saw the exchange, it was televised. Keep living in your delusions.


My grandfather didn't fight in WWII for this. He's rolling in his grave.

Komrade Kompromat Krasnov.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Starcrossed
We all saw the exchange, it was televised. Keep living in your delusions.

What delusions, Starcrossed?
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
You seem to miss a lot. Zelinsky was escorted out of the white house as a persona non grata. Trump just over turned Europe's plan for more war in Ukraine. Kind of funny really. Poor old Vlad looked so silly in his shirt sleeves with arms crossed like a petulant child as the two adults in the room took him to the woodshed for a whuppin' he wasn't expecting. BTW there never was an agreement for any continuation of the war. Trump showed that when he demanded $500,000,000.00 in rare earths and oil and gas. Ukraine could never agree to that. Kind of like the deal Germany made in 1918.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@sree251 YUP!
sree251 · 41-45, M
@hippyjoe1955
YUP!

Zelinsky was set up by Macron (France) and Starmer (UK). The poor sucker doesn't realize that he is being played by the Europeans.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@sree251 Whats his name Dudas of Poland was the opening act that included Macaroon and Starmer. Here is a hint guys - if you want to influence the POTUS don't campaign against him by interfering in US presidential elections.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
Only one side was shouting, the other was attempting to have a reasoned negotiation.

Perhaps Zelensky didn't fancy Big Mac and fries.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@SunshineGirl
Only one side was shouting, the other was attempting to have a reasoned negotiation.

Zelinsky wasn't being reasonable. He wanted to fight with Russia because Russia has taken part of Ukraine. Ukraine doesn't belong to him. He is just an ordinary guy who thinks he owns Ukraine. The side doing the shouting wanted the war to stop and was annoyed by Zelinsky's stubbornness.
nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
Way to go President Trump and Vice President Vance. Well done.
Zelensky had no idea of what he was getting into with Trump. He may have been arrogant and full of himself with Biden. If that is the case and he went to Trump
thinking or believing it would fly, he learned a painful but well needed lesson.
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tobynshorty · 51-55, F
Seems like Trump can only speak in what he thinks is tough guy speak and usually repeating the same thing over and over for significance.

Zelensky is too good for that experience.
nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
@tobynshorty Apparently not. The thing to remember is, Zelensky already has our Billions of dollars.
ididntknow · 51-55, M
@nudistsueaz The people slating Trump and supporting zelenskyy really need to look at the history the led up to this war, maybe then their opinions would change, maybe watching Ukraine on fire, on Amazon prime, would be a good place to start for them
nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
@ididntknow Exactly
Did Z duck out? I'm confused.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@MistyCee
Thats what it looks like, an attempt to justify giving Ukraine to Putin.

Trump wasn't justifying anything. People take things all the time. If you can't stop them, you stuff it. The Brits took America, Australia, Canada and New Zealand from the natives. We took America from the Brits. It's all good because everybody stuffed it. Trump was telling Zelensky to stuff it. Zelensky is not even a native of Ukraine. To be a native, you have to be part of the land. Even though I am an American, I am not part of the land. The Apache and the Sioux are part of the land.
@sree251 Why turn on the cameras while telling Zelensky to stuff it, then?
sree251 · 41-45, M
@MistyCee
Why turn on the cameras while telling Zelensky to stuff it, then?

Trump runs a transparent government. He wants Americans to know what's going on at the White House. Corruption happens behind closed door in Congress. It's time Americans know what is going on and how government works.
MarineBob · 56-60, M
He needs us we don't need him
nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
@MarineBob Exactly
Gibbon · 70-79, M
The spoiled kid not getting his candy. What a surprise.
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@Gibbon I'm not deflecting I've answered you. If you follow politics you would know that the Ukraining constitution allows for suspension of elections during war. He is doing nothing unconstitutional. Many Ukranians have fled and many are on the front line. While their cities get bombed, how are they going to have an election?

Meanwhile, Putin has been in power for 26 years, with no credible elections, and his opponents murdered or put in jail then murdered. If anyone should be berated it's Putin, but true to Trump he attacks his allies and kisses your enemies asses? When are you going to wake up?
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JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@Gibbon How am I stretching conversations? You just go back into your dumpster. I have proved to you Zelenskyy is not a dictator, that is a fact.
ididntknow · 51-55, M
I think the weapons have stopped 😎 mess with the Don, he’ll make you an offer you can’t refuse
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@ididntknow That's the problem, he's a gangster.
ididntknow · 51-55, M
@JimboSaturn And Biden wasn’t ? Obama wasn’t, Hillary Clinton isn’t, Bill Clinton wasn’t,
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MarkPaul · 26-30, M
Cry-Baby-trump had no idea what he was getting with Zelenskyy. He's not used to people challenging him and pushing him back. That's changing with world leaders cutting him down in real-time. Cry-Baby-trump is going to start taking out his anger on Sidekick J D Vance.
@MarkPaul I agree that Vance is likely going to get it from Trump, for sure.
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What a set up. They ganged up on him.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
Sidekick J D Vance disrespected Zelensky and then Cry-Baby-trump joined in and in warrior mode, Zelensky pushed back. Watch the Republicans contort themselves to become complicit in the downfall of America's leadership position.

This is what deal-making looks like.
maga.
sree251 · 41-45, M
Seems to me that Trump has overplayed his hand in attempt to make a deal.
nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
@sree251 Funny, I didn't see it that way at all. When your looking for a hand out, you need to mind your P's and Q's
sree251 · 41-45, M
@nudistsueaz
Funny, I didn't see it that way at all. When your looking for a hand out, you need to mind your P's and Q's

Zelinsky was demanding a hand out, the way our woke people demand diversity, equity, and inclusion.
nudistsueaz · 61-69, F
@sree251 🎯
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sree251 · 41-45, M
@nevergiveup
The fact he dose not ware a suit and it went down hill after.

Zelensky was wearing his "war dress", saluting the Ukrainian war effort, in the White House. He is going to pay the price.
ididntknow · 51-55, M
A QUESTIONS
Are there actual NAZIS living in Ukraine, do they have any influence,
ANOTHER QUESTION,
Who was Stephan Bandera, do you know the history of Ukraine, do you know of Victoria Nuland, and her influence in Ukraine ?
OriginalDumbMan · 36-40
He won’t pay billions of dollars
pancakeslam · 41-45, M
Trump isn't a politician. Zel definitely isn't a politician.
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@BohemianBabe More North Korean troops have arrived in Russia this week.
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JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@deadgerbil Looks like it didn't work this time.
deadgerbil · 26-30, M
@JimboSaturn only succeeding in America first, America alone. Ignorant nationalism
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@deadgerbil Well put.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Z is the borrower the US is the bank. A reader of what you write might consider you delusional.
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Oops typo Z = Zelenskyy
@sree251
sree251 · 41-45, M
@jackjjackson
Oops typo Z = Zelenskyy

Zelensky is nothing. He is a European puppet of NATO.
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