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Zelensky, the tough guy, disrespects Trump.

Mr Zelensky had been scheduled to have lunch with Trump and both leaders were going to sign a minerals deal during a joint news conference.

Instead, Mr Zelensky’s armored SUV abruptly pulled up to the door of the West Wing moments after a heated shouting match.

Trump has gutted Deep State, the covert power of the US President to take out foreign actors. Trump is on his own, and Zelensky knows it. Soon, the whole world will know it.
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Did Z duck out? I'm confused.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@MistyCee Yes, he walked out the way you would, in a huff.
JimboSaturn · 56-60, M
@MistyCee https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=trump+zelenskyy+meeting+in+new+york&mid=39CC132EEB83FEF04A1C39CC132EEB83FEF04A1C&FORM=VIRE watch this, TRump and Vance didn't let him speak at berated him, it was a disgusting low moment for diplomacy and they United States. Oh how the US has lost any moral high ground today.
@JimboSaturn I was just confused about the SVU pulling up and what that meant.

I just watched this and frankly, I'm not shocked or surprised, even if I am disgusted.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@MistyCee

I just watched this and frankly, I'm not shocked or surprised, even if I am disgusted.

Disgusted with what, Misty?
@sree251 Trump and Vance, but I'm still not getting this and haven't had the chance to figure out how this all came down.

Trump scheduled this show before Z was supposed to sign?

Went ahead with it after it was clear Z wouldn't sign?

I get that this is Trump staged, and that his performance was not great, and Vance and Trump didn't have the same script, but was this really just put on to let Trump blame selling out Ukraine on Z, or did actually think they could squeeze Z on TV?
sree251 · 41-45, M
@MistyCee
Trump and Vance, but I'm still not getting this and haven't had the chance to figure out how this all came down.

Obviously, the shouting match was unrehearsed and unexpected. Trump said that it was great for all the world to see the honest exchange, something Americans never get to see.

Trump scheduled this show before Z was supposed to sign?

Went ahead with it after it was clear Z wouldn't sign?

Z is just a puppet of NATO European allies (UK, France, Germany). The puppet was told what to do on behalf of the Europeans: don't give Trump the sole power to deal with Russia. Zelensky is full of venom and hate as Trump pointed out.

I get that this is Trump staged, and that his performance was not great, and Vance and Trump didn't have the same script, but was this really just put on to let Trump blame selling out Ukraine on Z, or did actually think they could squeeze Z on TV?

No, no , no, Misty. Trump is just trying to broker a deal to stop the war. Zelensky knows that Trump does not share Europe's support for the war against Russia. JD Vance was agitated by Zelensky's belligerent attitude towards Russia in a meeting hosted by the US. It was then that the shouting match was ignited.
@sree251 So Trump actually thought this show would help him broker a deal?

That's what I'm not getting.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@MistyCee
So Trump actually thought this show would help him broker a deal?

That's what I'm not getting.

Trump wasn't brokering any deal. He was calling the shots. He wants Europe's war with Russia stopped. It's a war that Trump inherited from Obama and Biden, and he doesn't want America to be involved in it any longer.
ididntknow · 51-55, M
@MistyCee you missed the point, no deal means the end of Ukraine, a deal means Ukraine comes out with something, and the death stops, which appears is something zelenskyy doesn’t want,
@sree251 Thats what it looks like, an attempt to justify giving Ukraine to Putin.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@MistyCee
Thats what it looks like, an attempt to justify giving Ukraine to Putin.

Trump wasn't justifying anything. People take things all the time. If you can't stop them, you stuff it. The Brits took America, Australia, Canada and New Zealand from the natives. We took America from the Brits. It's all good because everybody stuffed it. Trump was telling Zelensky to stuff it. Zelensky is not even a native of Ukraine. To be a native, you have to be part of the land. Even though I am an American, I am not part of the land. The Apache and the Sioux are part of the land.
@sree251 Why turn on the cameras while telling Zelensky to stuff it, then?
sree251 · 41-45, M
@MistyCee
Why turn on the cameras while telling Zelensky to stuff it, then?

Trump runs a transparent government. He wants Americans to know what's going on at the White House. Corruption happens behind closed door in Congress. It's time Americans know what is going on and how government works.