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Reason10 · 70-79, M
SPACE EX got ZERO subsidies from government.

https://www.teslarati.com/elon-musk-tesla-spacex-subsidies/
Do some research before you display your utter ignorance. SpaceX gets no subsidies and received half as much as Boeing for astronaut transport, but did 100 percent of the work.

As for Tesla, take a minute to read our public filings and you will see that EV incentives represent a minor part of our revenue. On the other hand, oil & gas companies get massive tax breaks that exceed those given to the EV industry by several orders of magnitude.

Wake up.

@Reason10 Using Tesla as a source here is like going to an Enron PR person to ask if they are honest and above board with their accounting.
Reason10 · 70-79, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow As opposed to THIS source, from you far left goose steppers?
@Reason10 No, actual sources like financial news sources.


And again. We already know you hate women. No need to scream that they intimidate you. We already know your masculinity is fragile. So fragile in fact women having opinions threaten you.

Sighs. We knew Trump was peachy with just this kind of "no questioning conflicts" unethical kind of thing when he was elected. Remember his "perfect call" with Zelinksy and "all I need is 10,000 votes?"

I get that it's bigger stakes with Musk deputized for him, but
Trump's spending is always aimed at lining his own pockets or those of his minions or allies.

E.g., the wall, concentration/deportation camps, Trump Gaza Resort.

I applaud efforts by the media to report what Trump doesnt want them to for as long as can though, even if it makes them the enemy of the MAGA people, though.
@sunsporter1649 Of course not, and I think you know better.

I do think that Trump is actually looking to do all of that, though.

For example, the physical border wall comes to mind.

I also think that some spending is not wasteful and is worthwhile to prevent corruption, like background checks, ethics counsel, and Inspectors General.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
ffony · M
@sunsporter1649 I won't and I didn't. Was there an issue you want to discuss rationally?
Prison1203 · 61-69, M
Good fr him and the exploration of mars nasa is wanting to move forward and Musk is the man to help them with his genius
Prison1203 · 61-69, M
@JSul3 well seeing as social security has never been audited, yes I believe it , they sent my dad checks for about 9 years after he passed away and that was 10 years ago I had to take hi birth certificate to their office after I had called them, about 15 times and only then did they start to stop selling the checks
ffony · M
@Prison1203 Interesting how you completely ignored the point raised by Sunshine Girl.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@Prison1203 So how will cutting staff in the department and auditory inspectorates help to improve that situation? 🤔
Makes sense when you understand that free money to oligarchs don't count. It is the poors that are not allowed to get help from the government.

That is their ideology in a nutshell. It is based on the belief that just being rich makes them special and deserving above the rest. A new tech bro version of divine right of kings.
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ron122 · 41-45, M
So, you don't think SpaceX keeping the US in space exploration is worth it?
@Prison1203 You absolutely are in a cult. Trump and Elon could set off a nuke in DC and you would immediately make excuses justifying it.
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SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
In 2021, SpaceX netted a major multibillion-dollar contract under the Biden administration to send the first woman and the first person of color to the moon as part of NASA's Artemis program, whose long-term is the exploration of Mars.

It's funny how DEI suddenly seems a good idea when Musk can make money out of it. SpaceX is clearly a woke company and all government contracts with it should cease at once!
Reason10 · 70-79, M
@SunshineGirl DEI is the same as Jim Crow. It is never a good idea.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@Reason10 That is an absurd statement. Jim Crow laws were an attempt by the racial majority group to use the law to maintain their historical privileges. Clearly there is no parallel. In addition, Jim Crow did nothing to make it easier for women, the disabled, older workers, parents, pregnant women, sexual.minoroties, and so on, to overcome prejuduce and barriers in the workplace.
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Any argument is against to the rules, now. I guess solutions would be out of line where you only agree and are only positive. So forever this is your politics. No more talking and no change.
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
Yeah of course they have.

This isn't hypocrisy it's about empowering his businesses even *more*. All this money freed up from the cuts - where do you think it will go?
MarineBob · 56-60, M
Remember when NASA used to do everything themselves
JSul3 · 70-79
@MarineBob Then 'contracting' came into vogue and practically every city and corporation began the practice in order to reduce labor costs and benefits.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@JSul3 Is that why NASA contracted Musk to rescue those astronauts NASA stranded in space?
GerOttman · 61-69, M
And you can thank the democrats for all of it!
Yup. Mainstream Americans brought fascism with your two parties!
No getting away cuz y'all don't have a problem with no fascism! That's a actual genocide with US weapons, but y'all fine with it! We leftists always knew you. Yuck!!!
Zonuss · 46-50, M
He's robbing from the rich and giving back to ...the rich.
MarineBob · 56-60, M
@Zonuss maybe he should tell Boeing to rescue their own astronauts
Zonuss · 46-50, M
@MarineBob Maybe he should deal with reality. I think we know this isn't going to end well. ☺
trollslayer · 46-50, M
Yup! He is self-serving!!
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JSul3 · 70-79
@NativePortlander1970 So....you do not think Musk has your data.
Good for you.
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@JSul3 Trump: I am cutting wasteful spending by our Government.
Democrats: IMPEACH HIM! We told you that Trump would be a dictator on day 1!!

Elon: We are $36T in debt, let’s find ways to cut Government spending.
Democrats: NO ONE VOTED FOR ELON MUSK!

RFK Jr.: I want to make America Healthy Again!
Democrats: WHAT!?! Noooo!!! You can’t do that!!

Trump: I will be putting a 25% Tariff on Mexico and Canada for refusing to work with America to stop the trafficking of deadly drugs coming into our Country.
Democrats: WTF!! Americans will now have to pay higher prices for Avocados and Coronas.

Tulsi: We should discuss the U.S. DoD funded bio labs in Ukraine.
Democrats: OH!! HELL NO! Tulsi is Putin’s puppet!!

Trump: I am deporting criminals who are in our Country illegally.
Democrats: Ummm?!?! Who will to pick our crops????


RFK Jr.: I want to put an end to the rise of Chronic Diseases in children.
Democrats: Hey, dummy…that is literally Big Pharmas job!!

Trump: We should look into ending all Federal Income taxes.
Democrats: WTF!! What about egg prices?!?

Elon: We should investigate how members of Congress making low end 6-figure salaries become multi-millionaires.
Democrats: PANIC!! Billionaire Musk will have access to your home address and social security number!

Trump: I want to move forward with eliminating Federal Income Taxes on Overtime & Social Security.
Democrats: AHHH!!! YOU ARE LITERAL HITLER!

Hegseth: We shouldn’t spend billions protecting foreign borders, while completely ignoring our own.
Democrats: WHAT ABOUT EGG PRICES?!?

RFK Jr.: We need to ban toxic dyes and bring awareness to the negative impacts on Fluoride in our water.
Democrats: SOMEONE, STOP HIM!! He is a crazy conspiracy theorist!!!

Trump: I am protecting women sports by signing an Executive Order to ban biological males from biological females sports.
Democrats: HORRIBLE!!! Only evil people would do such awful things to transgender women!!!

Elon: Should we audit the IRS next?
Democrats: The Rocket Scientist is, like, the dumbest billionaire, like, ever!!

 
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