So apparently Georgia is considering issueing a formal apology to Russia for the actions of the war criminal Sackashvili in 2008. What colour will

@CountScrofula That is kind of a cop out. And only the US claims to be the good guys in all cases.

There might not be good guys but facts are still facts.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow It's like that bell curve meme where the highest and lowest percentile agree with each other.

You don't point out facts apropos of nothing you're trying to make a political argument here and the implication is "Russia is quite good, actually." And it's ... it's not. A gangster capitalist state with a proud current state of murdering leftists, dissidents, journalists, and queer people isn't some place I'm flying a flag for.

The notion that in Ukraine or Georgia that any major power was an innocent victim doing nothing wrong and the other is a moustache-twirling villain aggressor is rubbish. Both NATO powers and Russia are in a complicated political tug of war against one another for position and hegemony. Neither is a hero, neither is a good guy.

In some conflicts, you gotta pick a side. In this one? Who cares we're talking online opinions. My solidarity is with civilians and drafted soldiers thrown into some stupid fucking wars so billionaires and state agents can profit.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow
You have an example of a country telling the world it is the bad guy?

@CountScrofula Everything I said was factual.


Gerogia started the war. Fact. Both the EU and OSCE confirmed this. Fact.

Both the US and the EU have completely reversed the facts in service of justifying the narrative that Putin is basically Thanos or Hitler depending on the day.


Only one side has been making a 30 year steady march to the border of the other. Fact.

One side has done this in violation of 30 years of agreements making peaceful negotiation with the West a total waste of time because the west has proven every agreement signed with Russia is signed in bad faith.

This has been confirmed by both diplomats and even heads of state.


This both sides bullshit is just another way to justify the war narrative.

The day Russia or China put a base on the US Mexico border or overthrow Mexico City or Ottawa than you can talk about both sides.

@GlitterEater Lol. With the US it is basically a daily occurrence.

@GlitterEater The very concept of American exceptionalism is based on that narrative.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow I’m not asking for Americas saying they are the good guys, I’m asking for an example of a country saying they are the bad guys.

Why are you pretending to misunderstand that?

@GlitterEater Why does that matter. That is not really the point. It is a country that has done objectively evil things claiming to be the most moral country in history.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow
Which? You haven’t even tried giving me an example.

@GlitterEater It is a totally irrelevant and ridiculous distraction that has nothing to do with anything.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow Do you not mean the things you say or do you just not understand them?

@GlitterEater
Canada comes close with always apologizing. Checkmate

@GlitterEater I understand just fine. You are just trying to change the subject with a very bizarre premise.

@deadgerbil Imagine making an argument and then crying that one of your premises is irrelevant.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow I'm asking you to explain your premise. Why bother making an argument if you can't explain or don't understand the premises? Why not just assert your conclusion?

@GlitterEater It is not my premise. You are asking me the total opposite.

@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow You know comments don't disappear after someone reads them, right?

@GlitterEater I am not the one with the reading problem.


I stated the US claims to be the hero in all cases.

And you have gone off on some irrelevant tangent about non existent states calling themselves villains that has nothing to do with anything.

@GlitterEater I am not the one claiming hero means villain.


In this conflict the US is the only one trying to pass itself off as the pinnacle of virtue.

@GlitterEater I am done playing your games.

@CountScrofula Russia was called from roughly 19 century before was Muscovy they had stolen from Rus to misled Russian people who been ruled by non Russian Katherine from Stettin, Stalin from Georgia and Brezniew who know what monger he was