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Persephonee · 22-25, F
It just means that Labour organised its campaign better (or, at all), compared to 2019. You don't get a majority by stacking up more and more votes in about 200 constituencies.
emiliya · 22-25, F
@Persephonee The media led a very effective campaign against Jeremy Corbyn in 2019, and Boris Johnson was very popular. At the time, the media portrayed him favorably.
@Persephonee I would have said that the Tories got punished for selling a fantasy that turned into the disaster known as Brexit.

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Gosh a supporter of Richi. I thought they were extinct.

It was not that we are enamoured is Labour, it’s just that the Tories imploded, and are past their sell by date.
MartinII · 70-79, M
@SW-User There is no suggestion at all that Guitarman is a supporter of Sunak, or of anyone else.
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@MartinII I stand corrected . It will be interesting to see what type of Tory party will emerge from the ashes.
MartinII · 70-79, M
@SW-User Indeed it will!
RachelLia2003 · 22-25, F
UK = COMMONISM
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic Sorry - I miss your joke.

However, NO!

The primary definition of a Communist state is that of one of very hard-line socialism based on Marxist-Leninist theories, and governed as a one-party dictatorship.

Although the true Communist nations do have their own interpretations of that - the Kim dynasty controlling North Korea even coined "Kimilism" for theirs!

Even though the post-WW2 Labour government was quite Socialist in its ideals, it was very, very far from being Communist.
@ArishMell No, I wasn't joking. I know we have never been or aren't Communist.

Americans seem to even weak left policies Communist.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic Ah - I wondered why the laugh symbol!

Yes, I have seen some of their delightfully genteel and insightful discussions on their own politics...

I think the USA's Left-Right spectrum generally is somewhat to the Right of the spectrum to which we have become used to in the UK and around Europe; but the European spectrum is widening itself.

..

There was an interesting point made by one speaker on Sunday morning's Broadcasting House; to the effect that we don't go calling the election stolen if our favoured party does not win, nor see a mob invading the Palace of Westminster; nor did we have thousands of Police and even the Army put on stand-by (as happened in France). Instead our leaders accept the results in a civilised manner, and he said, the changeover is marked partly by removals vans in Downing Street!
MartinII · 70-79, M
No it isn't. There are several explanations, especially the right being divided and tactical voting by the left to defeat Tory candidates. Whatever the electoral system, the result, though not the precise figures, would have been the same.
OldBrit · 61-69, M
Nope because he won more seats than the conservatives. That's how the system works. There's no minimum turn out.

Given our Police and Crime Commissioner was elected on a 13% turn out a turn out of 60% seems more than reasonable to elect a government.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
I am sure Guitarman knows that Labour won the election and got the most seats.

Well done everyone for pointing that out! 😆

Nonetheless. what he says is also true. Labour won but its like Southate's team at football.
MartinII · 70-79, M
@Burnley123 Up to s point, especially as regards the weakness of the opposition. But I think Starmer has played a pretty good game in the last few days. Of course, they will both be judged by results ...
InstructHer · 61-69, M
This time round the Labour Party played the firdt past the post system well, as did the Lib Dems. No point piling up votes in safe constituencies you have to go after those voters that can flip the seat.
smiler2012 · 61-69
@Guitarman123 irrespective of that too me is sunak and the tories are out of office in spectacular fashion with a lot of cabinet ministers losing there seats
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Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic that shows that he's deviated greatly from labours values. Point of the labour party is for working class people to have representation in parliament
@Guitarman123 Yep. But we know parties lie.

Unfortunately no politicians care about the working class.
Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic all too true unfortunately. Which also makes me annoyed that he doesn't either join a different party or rename the Labour party. The clues in the title
TheWildEcho · 61-69, M
The system is flawed, the number of votes doesn't tally with the number of seats
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Too much voter apathy allows bad politicians to get elected.

 
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