How can a POTUS drive inflation up, or down?
I'm told by the lefties that Biden has no effect on, or control of, inflation.
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NoThanksLeon · M
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LeopoldBloom · M
@NoThanksLeon Historically, the economy collapses during Republican administrations.
LeopoldBloom · M
@Strictgram The deficit exploded under your orange lord and savior.
Strictgram · 70-79, C
@LeopoldBloom Ever hear of Covid?
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
Inflation is a world wide phenomena. Nations can do things like raise interest rates but they are not in complete control of a world economy. The US economy, despite the "feeling's of people", is actually kicking ass compared to the rest of the world. GDP is up. All stats point to a recovering economy.
ElwoodBlues · M
@Strictgram wonders
Yes we have. And we are well aware that Trump did a lousy job responding to Covid and that right-wingers like yourself give him a complete pass on that. And we are well aware that the Covid aftermath entailed worldwide inflation, and that you blame the Covid aftermath entirely on Biden. Yes, we're quite familiar with your hypocrisy on the subject of Covid.
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All through Trump's term, our Covid per capita death rate was DOUBLE that of countries like Canada & Germany, resulting in about 550,000 Covid deaths under Trump.
If Trump had handled Covid as well as, say, Justin Trudeau, we'd have had 275,000 FEWER DEATHS! Put another way, Trump's mis-management of Covid cost more deaths than THREE Viet Nam wars!! Three Viet Nams in a SINGLE YEAR, not spread out over ten years like the actual war!!!
Sure, Covid came from outside. And different leaders in different countries managed it differently. Trump's piss-poor Covid management is made clear by the relative per capita death rates.
@LeopoldBloom
Ever hear of Covid?
Yes we have. And we are well aware that Trump did a lousy job responding to Covid and that right-wingers like yourself give him a complete pass on that. And we are well aware that the Covid aftermath entailed worldwide inflation, and that you blame the Covid aftermath entirely on Biden. Yes, we're quite familiar with your hypocrisy on the subject of Covid.
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All through Trump's term, our Covid per capita death rate was DOUBLE that of countries like Canada & Germany, resulting in about 550,000 Covid deaths under Trump.
If Trump had handled Covid as well as, say, Justin Trudeau, we'd have had 275,000 FEWER DEATHS! Put another way, Trump's mis-management of Covid cost more deaths than THREE Viet Nam wars!! Three Viet Nams in a SINGLE YEAR, not spread out over ten years like the actual war!!!
Sure, Covid came from outside. And different leaders in different countries managed it differently. Trump's piss-poor Covid management is made clear by the relative per capita death rates.
"I look at it this way," Birx told CNN's Chief Medical Correspondent Sanjay Gupta. "The first time, we have an excuse. There were about 100,000 deaths that came from that original surge. All of the rest of them, in my mind, could have been mitigated or decreased substantially."
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ElwoodBlues · M
@DogMan Actually, Trump proudly restricted travel from China on Jan 31. However, he repatriated US citizens from infected countries without any testing or quarantine mechanism. Cutting of travel from China didn't solve the problem when Covid was spreading in Europe and South East Asia.
And Trump's CDC was terribly slow in developing a Covid test. World Health Org publicly released instructions for making a Covid test kit on Jan 17, 2020. South Korea was testing in volume by Feb 07. On Apr 30, 2020 the Capitol physician says he doesn't have enough tests for all senators; only those with symptoms. Testing simply was NOT a priority in the Trump admin.
And Trump's CDC was terribly slow in developing a Covid test. World Health Org publicly released instructions for making a Covid test kit on Jan 17, 2020. South Korea was testing in volume by Feb 07. On Apr 30, 2020 the Capitol physician says he doesn't have enough tests for all senators; only those with symptoms. Testing simply was NOT a priority in the Trump admin.
Thinking that Hillary would have done better, would be naive.
Maybe, maybe not. The direct comparison of per capita death rates shows that the US had a mediocre Covid response. And if Hillary handled Covid badly, don't you think republicans would have highlighted that and run against her Covid response?
DogMan · 61-69, M
@ElwoodBlues POLITICS
House Democrats just passed a bill to repeal Trump’s travel bans
The Senate isn’t likely to consider the bill, but it signals a key Democratic priority ahead of the presidential election.
by Nicole Narea
Jul 22, 2020, 2:47 PM PDT
Demonstrators gather near the White House to protest President Donald Trump’s travel ban on seven Muslim countries on January 29, 2017, in Washington, DC.
Demonstrators gather near the White House to protest President Donald Trump’s travel ban on seven Muslim countries on January 29, 2017, in Washington, DC. Zach Gibson/Getty Images
Nicole Narea
Nicole Narea covers politics and society for Vox. She first joined Vox in 2019, and her work has also appeared in Politico, Washington Monthly, and the New Republic.
Covid was the best thing that ever happened to Democrats, without it, they never would
have regained the White House.
House Democrats just passed a bill to repeal Trump’s travel bans
The Senate isn’t likely to consider the bill, but it signals a key Democratic priority ahead of the presidential election.
by Nicole Narea
Jul 22, 2020, 2:47 PM PDT
Demonstrators gather near the White House to protest President Donald Trump’s travel ban on seven Muslim countries on January 29, 2017, in Washington, DC.
Demonstrators gather near the White House to protest President Donald Trump’s travel ban on seven Muslim countries on January 29, 2017, in Washington, DC. Zach Gibson/Getty Images
Nicole Narea
Nicole Narea covers politics and society for Vox. She first joined Vox in 2019, and her work has also appeared in Politico, Washington Monthly, and the New Republic.
Covid was the best thing that ever happened to Democrats, without it, they never would
have regained the White House.
ElwoodBlues · M
@DogMan You do realize, don't you that a "travel ban on seven Muslim countries on January 29, 2017" has nothing to do with Covid, right?
Trump was good at taking credit for good things that happened during his presidency. He really couldn't cope with bad things such as Covid. Truly a fair weather president.
Trump was good at taking credit for good things that happened during his presidency. He really couldn't cope with bad things such as Covid. Truly a fair weather president.
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
@NoThanksLeon Told me what?
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ElwoodBlues · M
@NoThanksLeon says
Let's consult the historical record: "From 1952 through June 2020, annualized real stock market returns under Democrats have been 10.6% compared with 4.8% for Republicans."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sergeiklebnikov/2020/07/23/historical-stock-market-returns-under-every-us-president/#51469926faaf
And check out job growth red vs blue
Perhaps you'd prefer to look at GDP growth??
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I see you're whining about "AI."
If you think the numbers are wrong, go ahead and look up some of them. Post your numbers along with sources. Oh, wait, I forgot, you're allergic to data and research. SAD!!
And all YOU do is cry "troll".
FALSE!! I supplied evidence and invited you to disprove it. Remember this??Let's consult the historical record: "From 1952 through June 2020, annualized real stock market returns under Democrats have been 10.6% compared with 4.8% for Republicans."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sergeiklebnikov/2020/07/23/historical-stock-market-returns-under-every-us-president/#51469926faaf
And check out job growth red vs blue
Perhaps you'd prefer to look at GDP growth??
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[sep][sep][sep]I see you're whining about "AI."
If you think the numbers are wrong, go ahead and look up some of them. Post your numbers along with sources. Oh, wait, I forgot, you're allergic to data and research. SAD!!
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
ElwoodBlues · M
@jackjjackson Wow, you made that up and lied🤣😂
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
Even the left wing US says so 😳 @ElwoodBlues
ElwoodBlues · M
@jackjjackson Evidence?? Of course not🤣😂🤣😂
jackjjackson · 61-69, M
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
Buy sending billions to other countries.
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
@JimboSaturn Read the article. Look it up yourself, think!
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
@JimboSaturn So the US has the exact amount of physical money as funds in all the world?
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As did the righties when Trump was in office. Do you want Free Enterprise or not?
BizSuitStacy · M
@Theyitis gas prices sky rocketed the moment Biden pushed over the 1st domino signing off on the EOs. We were already in covid lockdown
Check the CPI...gas was 75% higher under Biden than under Trump by the time Putin invaded. Your problem is the data doesn't support the male bovine manure you're shovelling.
Check the CPI...gas was 75% higher under Biden than under Trump by the time Putin invaded. Your problem is the data doesn't support the male bovine manure you're shovelling.
zonavar68 · 51-55, M
Is the Fed independent of government? Trump doesn't want it to be. Our Aussie reserve bank is independent of government. Inflation cannot be *easily* manipulated without flow-on effects like triggering recessions, driving up property prices, killing other financial markets, etc.
ElwoodBlues · M
@NoThanksLeon says
Let's consult the historical record: "From 1952 through June 2020, annualized real stock market returns under Democrats have been 10.6% compared with 4.8% for Republicans."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sergeiklebnikov/2020/07/23/historical-stock-market-returns-under-every-us-president/#51469926faaf
And check out job growth red vs blue
Perhaps you'd prefer to look at GDP growth??
[sep][sep][sep]
I see you're whining about "AI."
If you think the numbers are wrong, go ahead and look up some of them. Post your numbers along with sources. Oh, wait, I forgot, you're allergic to data and research. SAD!!
And all YOU do is cry "troll".
FALSE!! I supplied evidence and invited you to disprove it. Remember this??Let's consult the historical record: "From 1952 through June 2020, annualized real stock market returns under Democrats have been 10.6% compared with 4.8% for Republicans."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/sergeiklebnikov/2020/07/23/historical-stock-market-returns-under-every-us-president/#51469926faaf
And check out job growth red vs blue
Perhaps you'd prefer to look at GDP growth??
[sep][sep][sep]
UPDATE
[sep][sep][sep]I see you're whining about "AI."
If you think the numbers are wrong, go ahead and look up some of them. Post your numbers along with sources. Oh, wait, I forgot, you're allergic to data and research. SAD!!
NoThanksLeon · M
@ElwoodBlues AI
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JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
@CestManan It's complicated so people just blame the current government.
JimboSaturn · 51-55, M
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
Spends money we dont have. Gives money to foreign wars. The fed prints more monopoly money
Theyitis · 36-40, M
Do you think we’re wrong? If so, then why don’t you try to answer that question?
BizSuitStacy · M
Monetary restraint, and then drill baby, drill!
ChipmunkErnie · 70-79, M
Basically, he can't.
BohemianBoo · M
LeopoldBloom · M
@BohemianBoo Gaaaaaah
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