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Well done France for dealing with it correctly. By all means have a Pro Palestine rally anytime of the year, but if you do it right after a Hamas attack, you ARE consciously or subconsciously celebrating what happened.
Bumbles · 51-55, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic I agree the shouts of "Free Palestine" in the aftermath were absolutely a celebration. They are practically ripping their faces off in anguish as Israel seeks to destroy Hamas, but when it comes to the Hamas attack you either get a tepid "I condemn" or "I condemn, but..."
Bumbles · 51-55, M
I’d been accused of supporting genocide for my stance on Israel multiple times here, but I am an old First Amendment guy, Nazi marches and all.
independentone · M
Germany has done the same.
SW-User
Yeah, thought-policing is a wonderful idea.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@SW-User
No need to read minds. Actions are good enough.
No need to read minds. Actions are good enough.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
It's pro Palestine and not pro Hamas.
I feel almost annoyed that I have to say that but I do have to say that.
Also, as others have noted, Macron's bam would be against the US First Amendment. What all of this amounts to is making it illegal to protest against a country that is about to commit genocide.
I feel almost annoyed that I have to say that but I do have to say that.
Also, as others have noted, Macron's bam would be against the US First Amendment. What all of this amounts to is making it illegal to protest against a country that is about to commit genocide.
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beckyromero · 36-40, F
@Burnley123
Trump privately calling for Netanyahu to be ‘impeached,’ asking aides if he should do so publicly — report
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/trump-privately-calling-for-netanyahu-to-be-impeached-asking-aides-if-he-should-do-so-publicly-report/
You really need to keep more up to date on U.S. politics. 😉
Especially with Trump stalking horse, Vivek Ramaswamy, calling for a complete END to ALL military aid to Israel.
Like all the other Republicans, Trump is pro Israel and pro Netanyahu.
Trump privately calling for Netanyahu to be ‘impeached,’ asking aides if he should do so publicly — report
Former US president Donald Trump has privately been calling for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to be “impeached” over the government’s failure to anticipate the weekend Hamas onslaught, Rolling Stone magazine reports, citing two sources familiar with the matter.
The stance has been advocated in calls Trump has held with several pro-Israel, Republican allies who have asked the former president and current GOP presidential frontrunner how he would handle the current Israel-Hamas war.
Trump has proposed cutting off all US humanitarian aid to the Palestinians (in both the West Bank and Gaza, as he did when he was president) and encouraging other countries to do the same as well as capturing and extraditing Hamas figures, Rolling Stone says.
In most of the conversations, though, Trump has focused on his distaste for Netanyahu, whom he has never forgiven for congratulating US President Joe Biden after he won the 2020 election.
Trump has expressed his desire for Netanyahu to be out of office by the time he hopes to be back in the White House in 2025, according to the report.
The stance has been advocated in calls Trump has held with several pro-Israel, Republican allies who have asked the former president and current GOP presidential frontrunner how he would handle the current Israel-Hamas war.
Trump has proposed cutting off all US humanitarian aid to the Palestinians (in both the West Bank and Gaza, as he did when he was president) and encouraging other countries to do the same as well as capturing and extraditing Hamas figures, Rolling Stone says.
In most of the conversations, though, Trump has focused on his distaste for Netanyahu, whom he has never forgiven for congratulating US President Joe Biden after he won the 2020 election.
Trump has expressed his desire for Netanyahu to be out of office by the time he hopes to be back in the White House in 2025, according to the report.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/trump-privately-calling-for-netanyahu-to-be-impeached-asking-aides-if-he-should-do-so-publicly-report/
You really need to keep more up to date on U.S. politics. 😉
Especially with Trump stalking horse, Vivek Ramaswamy, calling for a complete END to ALL military aid to Israel.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@beckyromero As I'm sure you know, I'm talking about what he did when he was President.
https://www.vox.com/2018/5/14/17340798/jerusalem-embassy-israel-palestinians-us-trump
If he's turned on Bibi recently, it's incidental to his support for Israeli policy (and the right of Israeli policy). His beef there is personal and not in policy.
I need to go now. I will maybe continue this some other time.
https://www.vox.com/2018/5/14/17340798/jerusalem-embassy-israel-palestinians-us-trump
If he's turned on Bibi recently, it's incidental to his support for Israeli policy (and the right of Israeli policy). His beef there is personal and not in policy.
I need to go now. I will maybe continue this some other time.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@Burnley123
🙂 There may not be easy answers because there aren't easy questions.
(I happen to agree with placing our embassy in the capital of a nation with which we have diplomatic relations with, a nation we have long considered to be a friend and ally. Trump only moved the embassy for political reasons and he was angered by the fact American Jews didn't flock to supporting him like blind sheep. And previous administrations didn't do so out of fear of angering oil-supplying Arab nations.)
🙂 There may not be easy answers because there aren't easy questions.
(I happen to agree with placing our embassy in the capital of a nation with which we have diplomatic relations with, a nation we have long considered to be a friend and ally. Trump only moved the embassy for political reasons and he was angered by the fact American Jews didn't flock to supporting him like blind sheep. And previous administrations didn't do so out of fear of angering oil-supplying Arab nations.)
Do you also support people participating in silent prayer getting arrested, too???
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@HootyTheNightOwl
I suppose that would depend on where they are praying and what they are praying for.
Examples:
A MAGA crowd illegally stages a "pray to Orange Jesus" event at the Capitol. Throw them in the slammer!
A Jim Jones-type cult leader conducting a "prayer" event? Yes, save lives and arrest them.
I suppose that would depend on where they are praying and what they are praying for.
Examples:
A MAGA crowd illegally stages a "pray to Orange Jesus" event at the Capitol. Throw them in the slammer!
A Jim Jones-type cult leader conducting a "prayer" event? Yes, save lives and arrest them.
@beckyromero No, the example I speak of is one adult silently praying. No massive gangs of people, no screaming or shouting... just one person.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@HootyTheNightOwl
There are places were it would be illegal to "silently pray."
You can't do so by trespassing onto private property, for example. Neither would you be permitted to do so by sitting in the middle of a highway or in the aisle of an airplane (go pray in your seat).
The Second Amendment is not absolute.
There are places were it would be illegal to "silently pray."
You can't do so by trespassing onto private property, for example. Neither would you be permitted to do so by sitting in the middle of a highway or in the aisle of an airplane (go pray in your seat).
The Second Amendment is not absolute.
PhilDeep · 51-55, M
As far as I'm aware in the UK support for Palestinian civilians is allowed in demonstrations but not support for Hamas.
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
The inability to separate opposition to military occupation and ethnic cleansing from terrorism is very Republican of you.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
Are they pro hamas or pro palestine?
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@trollslayer
Since the protests were planned after former Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal called for a "Day of Anger," what do you think?
Since the protests were planned after former Hamas leader Khaled Meshaal called for a "Day of Anger," what do you think?
SW-User
@beckyromero That doesn't answer the question.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@SW-User
Not my problem if you can't add 2+2.
Not my problem if you can't add 2+2.
pancakeslam · 41-45, M
the USA isn't about to do away with the Bill of Rights. just keeping them out of the country in the first place would have been the proper idea.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@Theyitis
Hamas killed dozens of Americans and took many more hostage, no doubt torturing them.
If the U.S. declared war on Hamas, you just watch how fast pro-Hamas "sympathizers" in the U.S. would be arrested.
Just as German American Bund members were arrested during World War II for their pro-Nazi "free speech" views.
Hamas killed dozens of Americans and took many more hostage, no doubt torturing them.
If the U.S. declared war on Hamas, you just watch how fast pro-Hamas "sympathizers" in the U.S. would be arrested.
Just as German American Bund members were arrested during World War II for their pro-Nazi "free speech" views.
Theyitis · 36-40, M
@beckyromero People don’t get arrested for displaying the Confederate flag. They were always an enemy of the US.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@Theyitis
Well, it is kind of hard to distinguish the last Confederate flag from a dirty dish towel.
Well, it is kind of hard to distinguish the last Confederate flag from a dirty dish towel.
Dino11 · M
This could get very ugly
caesar7 · 61-69, M
Agreed.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@caesar7 She's talking about Palestinian flags being banned.