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The French Have the Right Idea. Banning Pro-Hamas 'Protests'

There's no place for protests of hate or for support of terrorists.
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Burnley123 · 41-45, M
It's pro Palestine and not pro Hamas.

I feel almost annoyed that I have to say that but I do have to say that.

Also, as others have noted, Macron's bam would be against the US First Amendment. What all of this amounts to is making it illegal to protest against a country that is about to commit genocide.
beckyromero · 36-40, FVIP
@Burnley123

But isn't the question what does it mean to be "pro Palestine"?
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@beckyromero It would be good of you to investigate that before posting. If they were leaving pro Hamas symbols then that would be different.

Praising the French government for banning Palestinian solidarity protests is what you have done.
beckyromero · 36-40, FVIP
@Burnley123
Praising the French government for banning Palestinian solidarity protests is what you have done.

Because the protests were in response to a "Day of Rage" called for by a terrorist group.

I feel exactly the same way about Donald Trump's call for protests on January 6th, 2021.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@beckyromero They were organised by Western pro Palestinian activists in a vain attempt to stop Western governments from supporting the coming genocide.

It's a terrible analogy for many reasons, not least because you are closer to Trump on this foreign policy issue than you are to me.
beckyromero · 36-40, FVIP
@Burnley123
It's a terrible analogy for many reasons, not least because you are closer to Trump on this foreign policy issue than you are to me.

Guess you haven't heard: Trump's out there criticizing Benjamin Netanyahu over the Prime Minister declining to support the assassination of Iranian general Qassem Soleimani in 2020.

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-benjamin-netanyahu-israel-hamas-republicans-63295565c0abe5b30da5898a6b8eb01a

Trump also is now praising Hezbollah for being "very smart."

And I really don't have the time to go into Trump's many insulting remarks about Jews in the past.

One last thing: Trump doesn't have a foreign policy. Trump is for Trump. And only for Trump.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@beckyromero We agree that Trump is an arsehole. It's why I said 'on this issue,'

Like all the other Republicans, Trump is pro Israel and pro Netanyahu. The latter even made great play of that in an election campaign.

January 6th? Can you imagine leftist soy boys and Muslims being welcome amongst a bunch of Trumpian cosplay fascists?

Two things that you disagree with do not have to be the same.
beckyromero · 36-40, FVIP
@Burnley123
Like all the other Republicans, Trump is pro Israel and pro Netanyahu.

Trump privately calling for Netanyahu to be ‘impeached,’ asking aides if he should do so publicly — report

Former US president Donald Trump has privately been calling for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to be “impeached” over the government’s failure to anticipate the weekend Hamas onslaught, Rolling Stone magazine reports, citing two sources familiar with the matter.

The stance has been advocated in calls Trump has held with several pro-Israel, Republican allies who have asked the former president and current GOP presidential frontrunner how he would handle the current Israel-Hamas war.

Trump has proposed cutting off all US humanitarian aid to the Palestinians (in both the West Bank and Gaza, as he did when he was president) and encouraging other countries to do the same as well as capturing and extraditing Hamas figures, Rolling Stone says.

In most of the conversations, though, Trump has focused on his distaste for Netanyahu, whom he has never forgiven for congratulating US President Joe Biden after he won the 2020 election.

Trump has expressed his desire for Netanyahu to be out of office by the time he hopes to be back in the White House in 2025, according to the report.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/trump-privately-calling-for-netanyahu-to-be-impeached-asking-aides-if-he-should-do-so-publicly-report/

You really need to keep more up to date on U.S. politics. 😉

Especially with Trump stalking horse, Vivek Ramaswamy, calling for a complete END to ALL military aid to Israel.
Burnley123 · 41-45, M
@beckyromero As I'm sure you know, I'm talking about what he did when he was President.

https://www.vox.com/2018/5/14/17340798/jerusalem-embassy-israel-palestinians-us-trump

If he's turned on Bibi recently, it's incidental to his support for Israeli policy (and the right of Israeli policy). His beef there is personal and not in policy.

I need to go now. I will maybe continue this some other time.
beckyromero · 36-40, FVIP
@Burnley123

🙂 There may not be easy answers because there aren't easy questions.

(I happen to agree with placing our embassy in the capital of a nation with which we have diplomatic relations with, a nation we have long considered to be a friend and ally. Trump only moved the embassy for political reasons and he was angered by the fact American Jews didn't flock to supporting him like blind sheep. And previous administrations didn't do so out of fear of angering oil-supplying Arab nations.)