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Want to see Trump prohibited from registering as a candidate for the Precedential Election in your state?

Take a look at this news video: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/challenging-donald-trump-s-qualification-for-election-from-your-email-inbox/vi-AA1fODIH?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=a5c4ae6cae22461b83eafcde2eb25f07&ei=53

The video clearly explains the legality of it (under the 14th Amendment) and Dean Obeidallah at https://deanobeidallah.com/ has a form letter you can request and email to your State's Attorney General.
whowasthatmaskedman70-79, M
Nope.... The Republican Party shouldnt get off that easily, now they realise what a loser they have on their hands. They earned this and they should have to suffer it..馃樂
whowasthatmaskedman70-79, M
@JimboSaturn Is it still that high?? But there again. There arent as many Republicans as there used to be...馃樂
KunsanVeteran61-69, M
@whowasthatmaskedman Those that took his advise and injected themselves with bleach aren鈥檛 around anymore鈥.
whowasthatmaskedman70-79, M
@KunsanVeteran We are fortunate that so few people followed that logic...馃樂
beckyromero36-40, F
I would love to see U.S. Supreme Court uphold the barring of Trump as a candidate or holding any office of the United States.

It's the 14th Amendment's wording that would be at the center of it all.

[quote]
Section 3

No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.[/quote]

Trump would argue that there hasn't been an "insurrection or rebellion" because no one has been charged with that crime.

On the other hand, four members of the Proud Boys were found guilty of seditious conspiracy for their actions before and during the breach of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. And that a seditious conspiracy to prevent the peaceful transfer of power is not different than an insurrection.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/jury-convicts-four-leaders-proud-boys-seditious-conspiracy-related-us-capitol-breach

Trump certainly sent them signals.

[media=https://youtu.be/qIHhB1ZMV_o]
calicuz51-55, M
@beckyromero

Yes, it's all in the wording, and I believe we should let the Supreme Court rule on the translation of that Amendment.

The question though, is technically, he was never on the grounds of the Capitol, so the Supreme Court would have to rule on whether "inciting" is the same as "engaging in."
OntheroadM
@calicuz Case law and rulings by SCOTUS would seem to favor upholding the case of incitement as a chargeable offense, but only if the incitement brought about substantive evils that Congress has a right to prevent.

鈥淭he question in every case is whether the words used are used in such circumstances and are of such a nature as to create a clear and present danger that they will bring about the substantive evils that Congress has a right to prevent.鈥
calicuz51-55, M
@Ontheroad

Sounds solid to me. 馃憤馃徏
KunsanVeteran61-69, M
I was just watching that video and it is excellent!
OntheroadM
@KunsanVeteran It is, and I've requested a copy of the email to send our Attorney General.
KunsanVeteran61-69, M
@Ontheroad I am doing the same. The key message in my humble opinion was that [b]it鈥檚 in everyone鈥檚 best interest to start these processes moving forward right now by contacting your State鈥檚 Secretary of State.[/b]
OntheroadM
@KunsanVeteran Yep, it's not something that will get done overnight and it's going to take some real effort.
KunsanVeteran61-69, M
Quad Indicted [b]never has and never will win the popular vote.[/b] Each state that removes him from their ballot [b]guarantees [/b]that he will receive none of their Electoral College votes. QI might not be in prison by the election, but every patriotic American owes it to their family, friends, and neighbors to do their part to keep him from ever setting foot in the Oval Office again!
TexChikF
The leftists can鈥檛 beat him so they interfere in the election process
Graylight51-55, F
There's a good chance of convincing states to prohibit his name from being placed on the ballot due to the charges, but several key states would have to have to courage to follow through.
OntheroadM
@Patriot96 Nothing happened to the Constitution, read the 14th Amendment. Case closed.
Graylight51-55, F
@Patriot96 He's confessed to his crimes all over the place. Facts are still facts whether you look at them or not. But we're happy to wait for the official verdict of paper. Think how much that'll be worth.
jehova31-35, M
@Patriot96 he shit on it but no one else can?
KunsanVeteran61-69, M
14th Amendment, paragraph 3 is self actuating and [b]does not require a conviction, impeachment, or act of Congress.[/b]

The Secretaries of State in MI, GA, NV, and PA are discussing this possibility among themselves. Some of the most influential advocates are Republicans鈥擺b]real Republicans (I.e not MAGAs)![/b]
Graylight51-55, F
@KunsanVeteran Yes, but it will be an unprecedented and extraordinarily polarizing stand for any one state to make, and their interests tend to lay close to home. Of the few blue states out there, you'd need every one of them on board. Or California, which is something Newsome might push..
KunsanVeteran61-69, M
@Graylight MI, GA, AZ, and NM State Secretaries of State are talking (led primarily by Sec. Benson at this point) and a GOP minor candidate is filing a case in FL. There is the beginnings of a coordinated effort which ultimately might lead to the SCOTUS. Now is the time to push this effort as it will take time, organization, money, and media support.

But our democracy is at stake.
Graylight51-55, F
@KunsanVeteran Follow through is a tricky and rare thing. They face backlash from the very next Republican president. Few are ever really prepared to back up their words. But I'd be happy if they did.
DearAmbellina211341-45, F
I believe Arizona already had him removed as a possibility. 馃
jehova31-35, M
Id like to see that very unlikely though. I think a person actively under investigation or in court proceedings shouldnt br on the ballet. Additionally given most of the proceeding are regarding acts while he was in office. Id say he is obviously unfit to serve
nah. im not a fascist POS....
BizSuitStacyM
Oh...playing the "insurrection" angle again. 馃ぃ馃ぃ馃ぃ The thing that the FBI already testified did [b][i]not[/i][/b] happen. So, yet another hair brained election interference tactic. We'd simply write Trump in. You can't stop the masses from voting for him.
OntheroadM
I'm amused by those who scream about adhering to the Constitution, cry about adhering to the Constitution! You provide me with much laughter... so, thanks for your comments!
Patriot9656-60, C
@Ontheroad try reading it
KunsanVeteran61-69, M
New Hampshire is leading the way!
KunsanVeteran61-69, M
@KunsanVeteran Michigan and Florida are also petitioning to keep QI off the primary &general election ballots for 鈥渆ngaging in an insurrection.鈥
RedBaronM
But the viability of that has been much discussed and is questionable.

I suggest you look at sources other than those with extreme left- (like MSNBC) or right-leaning biases.

Start with realclearpolitics.com, which brings together sources from across the political spectrum.

On there, you will find pieces like the one you cited balanced by ones like this:

https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/4158573-the-disqualification-of-donald-trump-and-other-legal-urban-legends/

To wit, there is no consensus view that January 6th was an insurrection or rebellion as opposed to a protest that became a riot.

Personally, I would be happy to see Trump barred from running, but I鈥檓 not sure it鈥檚 likely or viable.

But read the above and decide for yourself.
Graylight51-55, F
@RedBaron This is an opinion piece. As such, it's got the very same value any anchor on CNN would have. The writer may be educated in the law, but his opinion is his own. And he fails to address the rights of states to bar Trump from the ballot altogether.
Jackaloftheazuresand26-30, M
If you ever wanted an example of "We can't beat him so don't let him play," it's this. It's also an indication that nobody cares about this as a case of crime but rather just as a tool
KunsanVeteran61-69, M
@trollslayer He won鈥檛. That鈥檚 why we want Quad Indicted to be the Republican nominee and to endorse a lot of losers like Herschel Walker and Dr Oz to energize that Big Beautiful Blue Wave!
KunsanVeteran61-69, M
KunsanVeteran61-69, M
@Jackaloftheazuresand I鈥檇 grant you that they are an in exact science. They鈥檙e not useless鈥攅xcept, of course, the [b]nonexistent ones Quad Indicted makes up in his delusions [/b]
in other words, they are scared of him winning.
BizSuitStacyM
@SheCallsMeCrushDaddy they are terrified.
JimboSaturn51-55, M
@SheCallsMeCrushDaddy Actually most democrats feel that Biden's odds of winning are greater against Trump.
Graylight51-55, F
@SheCallsMeCrushDaddy "Winning" indicates nothing but winning. It doesn't mean good or right. McDonald's wins the fast food war, but it probably contains groundhog meat.
TexChikF
Scotus will quash that
Constitutionally
sometimeslonelytoo51-55, M
eli160170-79, M
BigGuy226-30, M
You've got TDSyndrome BAD 馃お馃お馃お
Graylight51-55, F
@BigGuy2 Well, mostly because you have none. The only statement that might be a "query" has no punctuation and is of little import to the topic.

Prove your points, wait for response. Honestly, this thrashing about reminds me of a bored kid at the grocery store.
BigGuy226-30, M
@Graylight ... i strongly suggest you look up the word 'punctuation' and then LOOK over ALL my responses to you 馃檮馃檮馃檮

馃 oh right, so why isn't this relevant:

[i]For a start, read again {or if you haven't bothered already} this BELOW, why isn't it relevant:[/i]

[b]Tell me what's wrong with the three below, then i'll work on the other nonsense stuff you've provided[/b]

... here's 3 more 馃檮馃檮馃檮

It is pointless wasting my time proving my facts - as it ALWAYS happens, the response will be "fake facts" or "fake news"

{my last comment even applies to your kind of people who have SOME intelligence, but you've adequately shown by your discussion skills, your IQ is on the very low end of the scale, so i wasn't disappointed/haven't been by ANY of your comments - you've even mentioned 'punctuation' ... 'they' usually use the word 'grammar'} 馃檮馃檮馃檮 ...

[b]Liberal Hivemind in FULL FLOW[/b]

[i]{by the way, look at my use of the hyphen - {also full stops} - and as to WHY i use it a lot, it's in relation to grammar/ punctuation ... i'll let your little Liberal Hivemind brain have a meltdown 1st, then i'll explain} 馃お馃お馃お[/i]

馃[b][i] ... i'm guessing your head moves from side to side when you read as well...[/i][/b] 馃お馃お馃お
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