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Boundsoul · F
Because they are in a cult

Carla · 61-69, F
Because he speaks, they believe. It's a cult.

There are recordings prior to the 2020 election of roger stone and steve bannon both stating that no matter the results, denying the outcome was the plan.
That alone should make the case that it was all indeed, "the big lie".
But there is tons more that show it....
No matter. Trump speaks, the cult believes.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Patriot96 Here is Bannon:

[media=https://youtu.be/ns0QPEC5DdU]
Carla · 61-69, F
@Carla Yet Trump lives rent free in your delusions.
NatureGuy77 · 56-60, M
So every Democrat in Congress that said 2016 election of Trump was illegitimate and voted to impeach him should also be charged and found guilty of election tampering?
@NatureGuy77 I never said that.

But it isn't Democrats doing all of this. lol
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@NatureGuy77 Trump's personal foundation, that he used as a personal piggy bank according to prosecutors, was dissolved by the State of New York, and Trump and his children prevented from serving on the board of other foundations. Trump was found liable for rape and defamation, and ordered to pay a $5 million fine. Other charges are pending since he continued to defame the plaintiff after the ruling. He also paid $25 million to the students he ripped off through his fraudulent Trump University. The current criminal charges take a while to investigate, but now he will be held accountable for those crimes too.
@NatureGuy77 So the Clinton impeachment was also illegal?

Impeachment is in the Constitution, so it’s not election interference. But please feel free to write your Congressman and ask them to propose an amendment taking impeachment off the table.
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
Because he appeals to their limited sense of understanding.
He doesn't get it either.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
The main argument I am hearing from Trump defenders this morning is that the charges are politically motivated because of the timing. They really arent arguing that the events did not happen or that they arent crimes - because they can't.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
@trollslayer Since when is it a crime to contest an elektion?
@trollslayer "Well, he did these things, but the TIMING is suspicious!"...I like this in a bizarre way.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
If you have spent all your time in left wing and liberal media bubbles then yeah, that's the only conclusion you could draw.

There's plenty of alternative media you could choose to pursue if you cared to listen to another perspective...Matt Taibbi, Glen Greenwald, and Joe Rogan have been talking about this for some time, should you care to listen.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@trollslayer Did you? And what? That means you know everything and don't need anyone else's opinion on it?

I'd like to remind you that you are on here losing your mind about the possibility of a 2nd term for Trump.

Maybe you want to expand your horizons a bit.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@SumKindaMunster i certainly don't need the opinion of a non-credentialed media hack. Joe Rogan? Thats as biased as it gets. Why should his opinion be more important than mine?

And yes, i care about a 2nd Trump term, because I care about the future of the usa. Having a criminal cheat in charge of thing ensures our destruction.
SumKindaMunster · 51-55, M
@trollslayer K.

Well at least you can't say you were never told.

[media=https://youtu.be/bzVeLjj6Ao8]
pillowman · M
I believe some people are so much against the Biden administration the only person who was good at keeping American Values and was good for the American people according to the people behind Trump. Some might idolize him! I do not get idolizing someone anyway they’re just a person like everyone else.
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pillowman · M
@trollslayer personally I will do like I normally do listen to all the candidates lie about what they’re gonna do and what they stand for and whoever I align with the most I will vote for them.
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dale74 · M
Ever election he protested in they denied the case evidence was not even considered.

Your telling me joe biden got 10 million more votes than Obama and only had 3 rallies with less than 1000 people in total. There are two many things that just did not make since in the election. But these independent council is anything but independent. And bring a case to dc court when dc is 95% democrats he will always be found guilty.
dale74 · M
@LeopoldBloom Florida was closer to 55/45 not 95/5 like dc.
dale74 · M
@LeopoldBloom if Trump were truly guilty of what they have accused him of then he would be locked up you would never let someone who committed the crimes to walk free
@dale74 That's not how it works. He was released on his own recognizance. It's not like he's going anywhere as the Secret Service would be required to detain him if he tried to avoid trial. His arrests and arraignments were arranged with them. Trump is innocent until proven guilty, so the seriousness of the charges has nothing to do with whether he's locked up pending trial. That being said, the judge cautioned him against making threats, so if he tries that, he could very well be locked up until the trial.

Changes of venue are rarely granted. The part of Florida where Trump will be tried is more conservative than the state as a whole.
SW-User
The only thing that worries me is if these charges cannot be proven beyond any reasonable doubt. That is the worst case scenario.
JSul3 · 70-79
@SW-User Only takes 1 juror to believe Trump is innocent.
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
Do you have any credible evidence
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@Patriot96 That is not part of this indictment.
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@Patriot96 So charge her for that.
sunsporter1649 · 70-79, M
We know, only demonocrats are permitted to contest an elektion, right?
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@sunsporter1649 Are you illiterate, or scared to read the indictment?
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trollslayer · 46-50, M
@sunsporter1649 i deleted your comment because you did not read the indictment.
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trollslayer · 46-50, M
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SW-User
@sunsporter1649 ..and who do you think ensured that there would not be a greater police presence there..? Why, the current president at the time, Donald J Trump.

It's almost as if he knew what was going to happen in advance...
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
Youve decided he is guilty without a trial. It doesnt work that way
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@Patriot96 There is nothing to "believe" there. It is either correct or incorrect.
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
@trollslayer that is what i expected
Bye
@Patriot96 And you think Biden is guilty even though he hasn’t been charged with any crime.
hunkalove · 70-79, M
It's not about whether he is guilty or not, it's whether he can buy his way out of it.
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
@hunkalove doj and fjb administration trying to bankrupt him with bullshit indictments
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@Patriot96 ate you saying there was no plan to change election results or that trump was not involved?
The only defense I’ve heard so far is “he was following his lawyers’ advice.”
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trollslayer · 46-50, M
@SomeMichGuy This is the part that I truly don't understand. i don't see how anyone can say he is not an obvious liar. Yet that seems to be their argument, that Trump did not lie. They aren't saying "he lied, but so what."
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@MarmeeMarch The indictment lays out the charges, which must be proven at trial. Presumably, DOJ has evidence to support them.

What’s your defense theory? He was framed? They got the wrong guy?
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Punches · 46-50, F
Supposedly whatever judge is suppose to hear the case happens to be in kahoots with Trump.

He will just end up getting away with MORE of his bull, it kind of sucks.
@Punches The judge is an Obama appointee who has ruled against Trump before.
SW-User
What is "pure bullshit"? Are you saying the things that Trump is charged with didn't happen, or that he was not a part of them?

Who are you talking to here? They have me blocked. (DM me if you can :) )
iamonfire696 · 41-45, F
How could anyone see what Trump did and stand behind him.
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There are way, way too many suspicious activities by the dems that make us very leery that BinBiden won legitimately, one of them being the four years of them accusing Trump of a now debunked collusion with Russia, Hillary sabotaging Bernie in 2016, and all of the other lies against Trump in all these years.
@trollslayer Because the establishment has been brick walling Trump at every turn and then ACCUSING him of criminal actions, take your head out of your keister and pay better attention.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@NativePortlander1970 Still have not read the indictment, I see. Please stop commenting until you do. You are making a total ass of yourself.
@trollslayer Nothing but lies

 
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