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How can Trump be anything else than guilty?

I'm having a hard time with this.

Any reasonable person can agree there was a plan to alter the normal electoral process. Plenty of evidence here.

Any reasonable person can agree that Trump was behind those plans, or at least a major participant. Why? Because all he had to do was admit defeat and none of this happens.

Some folks may say that the plans were justified because the election was fraudulent. If that is the case, then Trump & friends need to quit being cowards and plead NO CONTEST, then provide evidence their actions were justified.

I just can't figure out why folks are still defending him.
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There are way, way too many suspicious activities by the dems that make us very leery that BinBiden won legitimately, one of them being the four years of them accusing Trump of a now debunked collusion with Russia, Hillary sabotaging Bernie in 2016, and all of the other lies against Trump in all these years.
LegendofPeza · 61-69, M
@NativePortlander1970 'a now debunked collusion with Russia'

Debunked by who ?
@LegendofPeza The Muller Report
LegendofPeza · 61-69, M
@NativePortlander1970 Myth#1

https://time.com/5610317/mueller-report-myths-breakdown/
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@NativePortlander1970 so you are saying he is guilty but his crimes were justified?
@trollslayer What crimes?
@LegendofPeza Ah, linking a leftist establishment rag, how surprising 🙄
LegendofPeza · 61-69, M
@NativePortlander1970 Republican-led , Report of the Select Committee on Intelligence United States Senate on Russian Active Measures Campaigns and Interference in the 2016 U.S. Election. (Five volumes)

"Like the Mueller report that preceded it, the report does not find a criminal conspiracy between Russia and the Trump campaign, but it does go further than the Mueller report in detailing the many suspicious links between Trump associates and Russian officials and spies. In particular, it describes Paul Manafort as "a grave counterintelligence threat". According to the report, "some evidence suggests" that Konstantin Kilimnik, to whom Manafort provided polling data, was directly connected to the Russian theft of Clinton-campaign emails".
@LegendofPeza Do not forget that Hillary met with the Russians as well in the past, as have other presidential candidates. Your point being, what?
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@NativePortlander1970 did you read the indictment?
@trollslayer Pure bullshit
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trollslayer · 46-50, M
@NativePortlander1970 What is "pure bullshit"? Are you saying the things that Trump is charged with didn't happen, or that he was not a part of them?
@trollslayer Believe what you wish, the dems and establishment "press" are nothing but liars, cheating to win.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@NativePortlander1970 It sounds like you are saying Trump is guilty, but he was justified because the dems and establishment press are "liars". So you think Trump should try to prove this in court as his defense.
@trollslayer Not at all, what makes you ASSume I think he's guilty, hmmm?
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@NativePortlander1970 Because you are not saying that certain events did not happen, or that Trump was not involved. The only other option is that he is guilty.
@trollslayer What I am saying is that ALL of those things Trump is accused of doing NEVER HAPPENED 🙄
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@NativePortlander1970 There were no "fake electors"? No plan to have Pence declare the election fraudulent? No plan to have the DOJ declare the election fraudulent? Plenty of documentation of all of the above, and that is what he is charged with. Here is the indictment, read it: https://www.scribd.com/document/662462402/Trump-Indictment
@trollslayer More like ghost voters, there is no way in hell Biden could have gotten 81 MILLION votes after ONLY winning 400 some counties, when Trump got 74 MILLION from well OVER 2,000 counties, it is statistically impossible.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@NativePortlander1970 So you are alleging the original vote was fraudulent, so Trump was justified in his actions? (BTW, that still makes him guilty under a legal definition)
@trollslayer Yes, the vote was rife with fraud, and no, Trump did NOTHING illegal in attempting to prove it.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@NativePortlander1970 Well, he has yet to prove it, but has had plenty of time to do so. Did you read the indictment? https://www.scribd.com/document/662462402/Trump-Indictment# Are you saying 10a-e did not happen? There is plenty of documentation that it did.
@trollslayer Because the establishment has been brick walling Trump at every turn and then ACCUSING him of criminal actions, take your head out of your keister and pay better attention.
trollslayer · 46-50, M
@NativePortlander1970 Still have not read the indictment, I see. Please stop commenting until you do. You are making a total ass of yourself.
@trollslayer Nothing but lies