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Oxford, UK: The Great Reset in action. Wall-less prison for inhabitants

[b]Is this a world first (China excluded)?
Coming soon - to your town![/b]

[[c=003BB2]b][big]Residents will be confined to their local neighbourhood and have to ask permission to leave it all to ‘save the planet’.[/big][/b]

Oxfordshire County Council approved plans to lock residents into one of six zones to ‘save the planet’ from global warming. The latest stage in the ’15 minute city’ agenda is to place electronic gates on key roads in and out of the city, confining residents to their own neighbourhoods.

Under the new scheme if residents want to leave their zone they will need permission from the Council who gets to decide who is worthy of freedom and who isn’t. Under the new scheme residents will be allowed to leave their zone a maximum of 100 days per year, but in order to even gain this every resident will have to register their car details with the council who will then track their movements via smart cameras round the city.

Communism will make the weather better.

Oxfordshire County Council, which is run by Labour, the Liberal Democrats and the Green Party, secretly decided to divide-up the city of Oxford into six ‘15 minute’ districts in 2021 soon after they were elected to office. None of the councillors declared their intention of imprisoning local residents in their manifestos of course, preferring to make vague claims about how they will ‘improve the environment’ instead.

Every resident will be required to register their car with the County Council who will then monitor how many times they leave their district via number plate recognition cameras. And don’t think you can beat the system if you’re a two car household. Those two cars will be counted as one meaning you will have to divide up the journeys between yourselves. 2 cars 50 journeys each; 3 cars 33 journeys each and so on.

Under the new rules, your social life becomes irrelevant. By de facto Councils get to dictate how many times per year you can see friends and family. You will be stopped from fraternising with anyone outside your district, and if you want a long distance relationship in the future, forget it, you are confined to dating only those within a 15 minute walk of your house.

A single person’s life will be at the mercy of Communists in central office, dictating the same type of draconian rules we had to avert the last crisis, a mild flu virus so deadly 80% of people didn’t even know they had it.

An entirely new social structure is being imposed on Oxford’s residents (and more cities are to follow) under the lie of saving the planet. But what it really is, is a plan for Command and Control. There will be permits, penalties and even more ubiquitous surveillance. Council officials will determine where you can go and how often, and will log every time you do. 15-minute cities, or 15 minute prisons?
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[c=1F5E00]Source:https://www.visionnews.online/post/oxfordshire-county-council-pass-climate-lockdown-trial-to-begin-in-2024[/c]
ArishMell · 70-79, M
Who the Hell do these County politicians think they are?

Although that report does not make it very clear I think it is really only to limit you [i]driving[/i] around the town. Nor does it involve physical gates! The "gates" are number-plate cameras and counters, electronic sensors not steel barriers.

[i]Vision News [/i]does give the Oxfordshire County Council's side of the story, which explains it; although VN's editor clearly does not believe them. It states no plan at all to "lock" people in, or to restrict them from [i]moving [/i]about the place at all; only to limit their [i]driving [/i]within the town.

Even so I can't really imagine the good people of that fair city - residents, local business people and University students - putting up with that; and it is hard to see how it could possibly work for residents who need their cars every day.

Nor can I imagine it working at a practical level. How could it? it is a heck of a lot of administration based on computers so designed by programmers not users, for idealists not users; a recipe for failure.

- How would it allow access for traders - deliveries to shops, building repairers, and so on? Would they simply abandon working in the town? Town-centre shops are already under enormous threat from the Internet and the continued development of out-of-town supermarkets designed to attract only motorists (because they can carry big trolleyfuls of goods, and probably no buses there anyway). One trader has told he will no longer take on work in Bristol because its new so-called "Clean Air" charge would put £30 a day for his van, on his bills.

- Or for commuters, either into or out of the area?

- Or for visitors from away from the county - would they be subject to a charge if they arrive by car of some artificial specifications?

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I don't go along with VN's imagined Orwellian motive, and I have no time for its Reds-Under-The-Bed waffle. More likely this genuinely is [i]imagined[/i] a way of reducing car use within the town for environmental reasons, but it has not been [i]thought[/i] through; by local counsellors thinking they are somehow Doing The Right Thing.

It seems a car-limiting scheme by rationing use rather than the charging by type arrangements of the Clean Air "Zones" [[i]sic[/i]] now in force in Bristol and other cities. Those are well-meant but really only cash-raising schemes with consequences either not seen, or ignored. However, unlike those, Oxford's scheme does not seem based on vehicles' theoretical emissions, just vehicle use; and just as badly thought.

On that, I believe London is extending its Ultra-Low Emission "Zone" even further out, beyond the North & South Circular Roads ring-road. I don't know how far out though. If to the M25 it would cover a huge area with a vast numbers of homes and businesses within it; and a sizeable part of it is way out in the countryside, far from the city.
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The idea of all these wheezes is not to control[i] people[/i] but to control using i.c-engined [i]vehicles[/i].... but it forgets the vehicles are needed by all sorts of people for all sorts of reasons.
Carissimi · 70-79, F
If you think it’s not to control people, just wait for your rude awakening. Never heard of the WEF and The Great Reset? They are very open about their plans, and it includes limiting mobility for the masses, including many other Orwellian things. @ArishMell
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Carissimi Of yes, Of course I have heard of them but I don't take them too seriously. Too much of what I have heard or read of them is from their natural enemies anyway.

I know the WEF is real but see it as largely a talking-shop; though there is the serious point that governments, economists etc of the world do need to talk about internationally serious matters. Nations are not isolated, self-sufficient little bubbles.

The Great Reset? I regard that, if the concept actually exists, as merely some theoretician's dream that gets conspiracy-theory types all excited!
WalterF · 70-79, M
@ArishMell Clearly you have not looked at a single one of the resources I sent you!

The WEF is NOT an old boys' talking shop. It is a real and present danger to civilisation. Explore its website.

The Great Reset DOES exist. See the book by the same name by WEF president Klaus Schwab.
The only thing illegal anymore is being a threat to the WEF and great reset..
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
This is a scheme to manage private car traffic in a highly congested city. Your interpretation of the report is novel and fairly extraordinary. Many residents of that beautiful city rely on foot, bike and public transport for getting about. Their freedom of movement will be enhanced by these measures.
WalterF · 70-79, M
@SunshineGirl And the rest?

And those members of the public who find this objectionable but were not consulted? See extract from The Telegraph above.

You may be happy about this, but many of those affected are far from happy.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@WalterF Perhaps choose to live elsewhere? Oxford is a small city. Its main economic activities are education and tourism. Most students do not own cars. Many tourists are happy to leave their cars behind in order to enjoy and appreciate the historical environment. The city has an excellent (but underused) public transport network. Using a car in a built up environment is a privilege, not a right. Unpowered human beings and their welfare should always be placed before the cinvenience of car users.
WalterF · 70-79, M
@SunshineGirl Brilliant idea! To "save the planet", the family of two working parents plus children at school could just move to another town! As long as it's for the greater good, no personal sacrifice is too great! And the elderly - just the right time to up sticks and go to a more human-friendly place! You're in line for the Best Comment award!
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
Hopefully the climate change bullies will be locked up first.
Misanthropic · 26-30, M
Maybe citizens should give the government what they want "Improve the environment"

Just stop driving, going to work, grow our own food, stop buying from large corporations, turn all our tvs off etc. Weaponise the environment against those fuckers because society would come to a stand still and they'd be backtracking in days.
Fairydust · F
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Graylight · 51-55, F
From the AP:
[quote]CLAIM: The county of Oxfordshire, England, which includes the city of Oxford, is imposing a “climate lockdown” that will confine residents to their neighborhoods.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. Oxfordshire has approved a plan to put “traffic filters” on some main roads, restricting drivers’ access during daytime hours and freeing up space for buses, cyclists and pedestrians. But car owners can apply for daylong permits to bypass the new rules, and many other vehicles are exempt. All parts of the county will remain accessible by car, officials said.

THE FACTS:Last week, local leaders in Oxfordshire voted to try a new traffic reduction system in an effort to reduce congestion in the county’s namesake city. Some on social media have since likened the scheme to stringent government COVID-19 containment policies.[/quote]

This has nothing to do with that darling word "lockdown." This is a traffic measure - like those taken all across the world - meant to have no impact whatsoever on the climate. Another false narrative is born.
Fairydust · F
@WalterF 💯 gaslighting us, control and abusing us.
Fact-checking crap only came about to hide the truth.
Graylight · 51-55, F
@WalterF @Fairydust conspiracy, theorist believe the theories they do out of choice, not evidence. So feel free to believe what you like, but this Hass to be fact, checked because of the idiotic miss information that has become normalized on the right.

And to your question about why I trust the associated press over a far right independent source, then you truly need to find a way to understand what a legitimate source is.
WalterF · 70-79, M
@Graylight Good luck to you. I wish you all the very best.
I find this a little hard to believe. Could you please post some kind of source that I can go and read more about it?
WalterF · 70-79, M
@SatyrService You are aware that anything with the word "fact-check" in the title cannot be trusted.

Correction: it CAN be trusted, but ONLY if you want to hear a reinforced version of the message that the media are banging out 24/7.

Best to check the facts YOURSELF. Don't leave that job to paid-up propagandist hacks.
WalterF · 70-79, M
@SatyrService Here is my original source. I have just added it to the post

https://www.visionnews.online/post/oxfordshire-county-council-pass-climate-lockdown-trial-to-begin-in-2024
Fairydust · F
@SatyrService
the wef stated that we’ll need a permit to travel outside our area’s, they control all the government’s.
This is real, agenda 2030.
The Great Reset, 1984 was a warning.
Dystopia is here 😢
Carissimi · 70-79, F
This is terrifying. It’s a prison. They need to vote those tyrants out of office.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@WalterF That's a bit exciteable for The Telegraph!

WHO though has actually proposed physical road-blocks? Traffic-counters using ANPR cameras yes, to limit [i]driving vehicles[/i], and I don't like the proposed ideas much either... but has anyone genuinely proposed controlling [i]people[/i] simply moving about the city?

My town's main shopping street is barred to motor vehicles, with appropriate exceptions, in the day. Although there are probably few residents there, in flats above the shops, and nowhere for them to park in that road anyway, is that wrong too?

Note what SunshineGirl points out - many of Oxford's residents already use other means normally.
WalterF · 70-79, M
@ArishMell Obviously, all who travel on foot or by bike are not affected.

That leaves an awful lot of others. Those who drive to work, spending more than 15 min in their car. The elderly who need vehicles to get to their GP or other appointments. The parents who drive children to schools. Or visitng one's preferred out-of-town superstore.

A measure imposed on many who will be unwilling. And, as usual, without the slightest consultation.

Personally, I find this worrying. But the Oxford public is not happy. Can we all be put in the far-right, tin hat, youtube-based conspiracy basket?
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@WalterF Of couse the Oxfordians are not happy about it, and that might be reflected in the next Council elections.

No of course we can't all be put into one basket, far-right, far-left or in any other direction. I questioned the sort of problems you raised, in my first answer but I separate the intention from the likely effects in practice, and apart from wondering what electoral results there may be I throw out the political stuff.

I was trying to tease what the councillors really mean, from what that VN magazine and [i]The Telegraph[/i] tell us to think they mean. It seems to me be a plan made with the best of intentions but not properly considered, and then badly reported.

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I do think the problem of out-of-town supermarkets is one coming home to roost. For decades they were allowed, even encouraged, and they are still, but they rely on their customers driving to and from them theoretically once a week (hence that phrase,' the weekly shop', which is as in bad in assumption as it is in grammar). Some are very long way from many of their likely customers, too: Cribbs Causeway for example is several miles from the middle of Bristol, whose Council now seems very anti-car indeed.

They are not compatible with traffic reduction schemes based on directly cutting car use, but are certainly good for congestion-charge fund-raising. Either way they add to the very problem of traffic that the planners are trying to decrease! While ruining the town-centres: that scheme in Oxford might redress some of that imbalance, but it does seem an unnecessarily harsh and bureaucratic method.

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If nothing else it might encourage people to use their cars more efficiently so less expensively, but I'd have thought the simple rise in motoring costs generally would do a lot of that. The truth is that we have all become so dependent on owning a car that it has created a circle of dependency bringing along with the traffic -jams and pollution, the loss of town-centre shops, public-transport, rural services, and so on. I can live without my car through most of the week, but many others in my area do not have that choice, and the County Council has just destroyed a bus service round one sizeable suburban area, leaving it with no alternative to taxis or private cars if you can't walk or cycle to town. (Financial cuts).

It is unfortunately inevitable that something has to give eventually. I don't like what Oxfordshire County Council appears to be doing, I think it too complicated, inept and heavy-handed; but I fear that such plans, congestion-charging and the like will become more common.

It is not intended to spoil our fun or obstruct medical appointments and school or work, but to make us all think more carefully about where, when and how to use our i.c-engined cars. While moaning about the traffic-jams to which we add. Whether it will work or merely anger everyone in Oxford for no useful result, is another matter.

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Following a conversation with friends in Somerset, I looked up the gov.uk list of congestion / clean-air towns,, and found mine is exempt in them; but these friends have to think very carefully about visiting Bristol in their work. One said his van would cost £30 a day, so it is not worth finding new customers there as most are private householders. The permanent traders in such cities will suffer badly and many might well simply give up; making life harder and costlier for the residents needing their services.

Allegedly Bristol City Council offers loans to buy new vehicles, as if that is likely to be an attractive or useful proposition. It can apply only to those who can afford a car-loan anyway, and who would still have to sell the existing one far from the city to have any chance of a reasonable return!
Virgo79 · 61-69, M
People is going to get tired of the shit one day.

 
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